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To: Rytwyng

No there is not. There is nothing more important than being in the Church that Christ founded it is the one ark of salvation as the early Church fathers have stated and without it you can not be saved. God loves us all and he wants us all to be saved but many refuse him.

Read my post I never said you ever thought of the abominable example of the Masonic principle. I was simply making a statement. I go by what Pope St. Pius XI said in Mortalium Animus that Catholics may not join large concourses of pan religions for some social or religious purpose like world peace because they do not all agree on the basic truths and Church which Christ established.

You sound confused. What are you a schismatic from if you don't believe that the original Church which Christ founded but has developed into a larger tree from the young sapling it once was?

Catholics love scripture and accept it as the innerent word of God. If you don't believe in the authority of the first Pope and you think that he was not infallible as to what he said pertaining to faith and morals then why do you believe the epistle that he wrote is the infallible word of God? If you deny the papacy you deny what Christ said in Matt 16:18-19 and Jn 21:17. We might not always like what Peter does but he is our spiritual father and the Vicar of Christ on earth. Paul had to rebuke Peter but that does not mean he denied his authority as the vicar of Christ.

You brought your Mom up for a reason- perhaps she is praying for you to return to the faith if she is living on earth or if she has passed on- God willing from Heaven. "There are not one hundred people in this world who hate Catholicism, but there are millions who hate what they mistakenly believe Catholicism to be." -Archbishop Fulton Sheen

If ever you want to convince me that Catholicism is wrong just drop me a line. You seem to have many Catholic beliefs so this is perhaps the foundation that your mom gave you. We really don't give our mom's the credit that they deserve. A plug for moms and a plug for our Lady- Holy Mary Mother of God who was as the angel Gabrial called her full of Grace. Read Rev. 12 :17. God bless you and I mean only goodness in what I said to you.


114 posted on 07/06/2004 11:34:49 PM PDT by pro Athanasius (Catholicism is not a "politically correct sound bite".)
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To: pro Athanasius
You seem to have many Catholic beliefs so this is perhaps the foundation that your mom gave you

Correction: "You seem to have many Catholic Scriptural beliefs." And no, Mom can't really take the credit, as she largely dropped the ball on my religious education. Both my parents -- my Catholic mom and my nonreligious (but Protestant-reared) dad -- were equally morally conservative.

Read the Bible yourself; you will find absolutely intolerable contradictions between Scripture and Catholic teaching.

You mentioned something about all my ancestors being Catholic. Well... I'm 5/8ths Irish, and that's the only ethnic heritage I really knew about growing up -- my Scot and Ulster-Scot lineages had been in the US long enough to forget the old-country quarrels, and I didn't learn of my Huguenot blood till many years later (via www.familytreedna.com). So, considering myself ethnically Irish, I felt like I was committing an act of racial betrayal by giving up the Catholic religion. So help me, I absolutely did NOT want to leave the Catholic church. But truth trumps ancestry -- fortunately -- otherwise I'd be a Druid!

BTW, my Polish/Italian wife and father-in-law also went through a similar struggle. They are of 100% Catholic ancestry and were good Catholics till they read the Bible. And so, I say again, read the Bible for yourself. Just like us, you will find yourself forced by the pages of Scripture to leave the Catholic church despite your deep desire to the contrary.

131 posted on 07/11/2004 10:19:19 PM PDT by Rytwyng
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