What some of us are perturbed about is the pathological obsessiveness of certain trads (not all) to continually put up threads by the reprehensible Christopher Ferrara, or Michael Matt, or Thomas Drolesky that trash the Pope and the Novus Ordo. In fact, none of these three men can write a word that's not a bash of the post-Vatican II Church.
If you want peace, stick to your knitting. Promote the Tridentine Mass. Stop putting up threads (as Land of the Irish and AskStPhilomena are won't to do) about the Pope only to lampoon him.
Some of the more strident on your side think it's cool to post pictures of the Pope kissing the Koran (if I never see that image again it will be too soon) or of clown Masses (as you have done in the past). Nobody has approved those actions, including me, your resident liberal.
So stop posting them. Just stop.
If the only way you can build up your case for traditionalism is to tear down the Novus Ordo, you have a very weak case.
Thanks for spurring me on (and you said my posts weren't bothering you, that you didn't even read them).
I am not comfortable with the fashion as to which this is done at times either and agree that it doesn't promote harmony.
As you know, as distasteful as the NO-mass is to me, I fully support it for those who wouldn't be in church otherwise. In other words I'd rather see a NO-mass than no mass at all. However, clown masses and diocese like the three ring circuses going on in LA, Albany and Cincinnati (to name a just a few) need to be trashed. Trashed as in thrown in the dumpster of history as a sad chapter in the history of our church.
Some of the more strident on your side think it's cool to post pictures of the Pope kissing the Koran...
While troubling, I personally don't find these silly symbolic things JP has does (on a consistent basis) nearly as upsetting as some of the substantive things he's done. Him standing next to a native lady with her boobs hanging out is not nearly as bad as what he's allowed to happen to our catechism and issues like scaling back fasting in 1983. I'm surprised we don't very often discuss the changes to canon in '83 on this forum. IMO that was nearly as much a disaster as 1969.
What you may not understand is that while most of us love and pray for John Paul as our pope, some feel that he has a hand in much of the damage that has been done to our church - wittingly or unwittingly. In the very least he hasn't done much at all about the damage, at the very most he's directly responsible for much of it.
This is why you witness the indignation that boils over. I agree with you that it gets uglier than it needs to and some here engage in bad behavior, but at times it's justified and things need to be said.
There's a time for everything.
"In fact, none of these three men can write a word that's not a bash of the post-Vatican II Church."
That's because it's so bash-able. Let's face it: when the bishops and pope attempt to impose a new religion on people, it's not enough to claim it's Catholic just because they say so. It must conform to past Church teachings. The postconciliar Apostolic See doesn't bother with this. They simply demand blind obedience. No way, Jose. Catholic Tradition is the measure of what is truly Catholic--not what they claim.