Was the "punishment " in that scripture temporal or after death?? Sin always has earthly consequences. We reap what we sow.As David , a man after Gods own heat , lost a son, and had a very dysfunctional family that caused pain in his life
The "forgiveness" of Christ you describe is not "forgiveness" , the "forgiveness" you describe is not mercy
He forgives you but then demands that you pay for your own sin too...that is unless someone prays to some saint to free you
The Blood of Christ does not free you from eternal punishment , but the intervention of some saint does.
This is not biblical , it was not taught by Jesus or buy the apostles.
This is a doctrine of men that what to save themselves , men that refuse mercy in exchange for a salvation by works. Suffer a little and then you have earned heaven .
I do not much care if you want to believe it. But the man that hung on the cross to be the propitiation for the sins of men must be sorry He died in vain .
Correct, and if we sow enmity with God through our disobedience, then we reap His just punishments. If we are forgiven our sins and the eternal punishment due to them, we still have a debt of temporal punishment that we must expiate, either in this life or the next.
...the "forgiveness" you describe is not mercy
I would think it's fairly merciful of God to not cast us into Hell, but you are free to disagree.
He forgives you but then demands that you pay for your own sin too...that is unless someone prays to some saint to free you
The Blood of Christ does not free you from eternal punishment , but the intervention of some saint does.
Ah ah, there you go, changing the subject. We are talking about temporal punishment remitted in the next life, not eternal punishment. And do you not think it just to be purified of your past offences before entering the Holiest of Holies?
...men that refuse mercy in exchange for a salvation by works.
God became Incarnate and Redeemed us not because of our works, but through His mercy. But this does not mean he will not "render to each man according to his works." Salvation is through faith working in grace.
Suffer a little and then you have earned heaven.
As opposed to "being saved" and living a life as you please and earning heaven? And who said that "suffering a little" is all that is necessary to merit Heaven? You must take up your cross and follow Him to become partakers of eternal life.
But the man that hung on the cross to be the propitiation for the sins of men must be sorry He died in vain.
Because I believe what Christ's Church teaches, His death was in vain? Here's an exercise for you: Find a quote from the first 500 years of Christianity that denies the existence of Purgatory or the idea that souls must be "cleansed" before admittance to Heaven. Here are a few from St. Augustine:
"Temporary punishments are suffered by some in this life only, by others after death, by others both now and then; but all of them before that last and strictest judgment. But of those who suffer temporary punishments after death, all are not doomed to those everlasting pains which are to follow that judgment."
"In the books of the Maccabees we read of sacrifice offered for the dead. Even if it were nowhere at all read in the Old Scriptures, not small is the authority, which in this usage is clear, of the whole Church, namely, that in the prayers of the priest which are offered to the Lord God at His altar, the commendation of the dead has also its place."