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Ratzinger against public sanctions on abortionists
Tradition in Action ^ | June 8, 2004 | A.S. Guimaraes

Posted on 06/09/2004 9:23:23 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena

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To: sandyeggo
Furthermore, it is not loving, courageous or compassionate to tell a sinner, an alcoholic, a sodomite or a smoker that his lifestyle deathstyle is OK and good and healthy.

Is it?
21 posted on 06/09/2004 1:40:21 PM PDT by broadsword (Liberalism is the societal AIDS virus that thwarts our national defense.)
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To: sinkspur

Sinkspur, have you ever thought of becoming a Catholic?


23 posted on 06/09/2004 1:57:18 PM PDT by livius
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Sinkspur, have you ever thought of becoming a Catholic?

Why? Because I posted an article from a conservative Catholic bishop? A Catholic bishop who, it seems, reflects the sentiments of Cardinal Ratzinger?

Perhaps you'd like to explain your obtuseness.

24 posted on 06/09/2004 2:00:56 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: AskStPhilomena

Actually, I don't think this is what Ratzinger was saying at all - Guimares has exaggerated. Proceeding cautiously is never a bad thing, and I am sure Chaput, Sheridan, et al. are doing so. But the European situation is a lot different from ours, and I suspect Ratzinger is aware of this and doesn't quite know how to proceed himself.

Churches and religious education in Europe frequently receive contributions from the State. Now that there are no longer confessional (i.e., established church states where the established church was the only one that got the goodies), this has been broadened to include virtually any religious organization that manages to attain a certain level of membership. However, this still makes it different from our situation in the US.

BTW, I saw Ratzinger mentioned as papabile. I was a little surprised - but of course, being mentioned means nothing whatsoever.


25 posted on 06/09/2004 2:04:31 PM PDT by livius
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You are either overtly liberal, or you pick out any ambiguous statement in anything - although I note that now you are searching for " conservative" bishops. Frankly, given the fact that you are supposedly employed as a deacon, but seem to manage to post 24 hours a day, I have always thought you were a group effort of some or another liberal group. So maybe I should ask if any of you have considered becoming Catholics?


26 posted on 06/09/2004 2:07:56 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
You are either overtly liberal, or you pick out any ambiguous statement in anything -

Get off your high horse, and point out the ambiguous statement.

Wuerl seemed perfectly clear to me.

I'm not "employed" as a deacon. I'm "employed" as a software salesman. Something I can, and do, do from home about half the time.

27 posted on 06/09/2004 2:10:36 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: livius
You are either overtly liberal,

If by "liberal" you mean that I do not agree with your assessment of John Paul II as a "failed Pope," then, yes, I'm liberal.

28 posted on 06/09/2004 2:12:16 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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OK, glad, to know it. I now realize that you are underemployed. Maybe you should work a little harder and post a little less.


29 posted on 06/09/2004 2:41:49 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
Maybe you should work a little harder and post a little less.

When you own the forum, I'll do whatever you'd like.

30 posted on 06/09/2004 2:44:12 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur

I don't own it, but the first thing you should stop doing is turning every thread to a discussion of sinkspur. It may be an effective technique for your objectives, or those of whoever you represent, but I'm sick of seeing you kill threads dead by injecting your personality into them.

Make comments and discuss - but if you're going to attack others, expect to be attacked yourself. Now get back to work - that's what I'm going to do (I am also self-employed).


31 posted on 06/09/2004 3:19:54 PM PDT by livius
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but the first thing you should stop doing is turning every thread to a discussion of sinkspur. It may be an effective technique for your objectives, or those of whoever you represent, but I'm sick of seeing you kill threads dead by injecting your personality into them.

You post your way, and I'll post mine.

You are free to skip over my posts, as I'm sure you've done, and will do so now, now that you've gotten your digs in.

Nobody "kills threads" around here. They die natural deaths.

32 posted on 06/09/2004 3:44:39 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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