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To: ultima ratio
Do you imagine that by repeating the word "normative" that this makes the Novus Ordo any less reprehensible to the Holy Spirit than it is? Clearly it is an abomination that is destroying the faith of Catholics.
A fully valid Mass is reprehensible to the Holy Spirit? You reveal yourself as the sedevantist that you are.

I’ve been away for a bit, have you admitted you’re a sedevacantist yet?

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185 posted on 06/05/2004 8:58:26 AM PDT by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: patent

Validity means very little. It is valid because Transubstantiation takes place. But the text and rubrics deliberately ignore this very reality and do all they can to deflect attention from it. It purposely undermines the Catholic faith by means of a Protestant theological perspective condemned by Trent.


196 posted on 06/05/2004 11:28:02 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: patent

I haven't changed my thinking one jot. I am not a sedevacantist since I believe JPII is legitimate and not a formal heretic. That is not saying much--I still think he's a bad pope and probably materially heretical, given his ecumenical policies which border on both syncretism and indifferentism. As for the validity of the Novus Ordo--I have always claimed that it was valid. That too is not saying much. It is a protestantizing Mass that is dangerous to the Catholic faith--and this is provable. It has also produced very rotten fruit. By their fruits ye shall know them...


197 posted on 06/05/2004 11:51:40 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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