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To: ultima ratio
So yes, one or the other Mass must disappear--

That's not true, but your obstinacy reflects the disingenuousness of the SSPX.

You've been offered an apostolic administration, but Fellay and Williamson will have none of it.

Here's some news: ALL of the Cardinals promoted by JPII are Novus Ordo bishops. Every single one of them.

You'd better do any "deal" you're going to do with JPII. His successor is likely to tell the SSPX to take a hike.

45 posted on 06/03/2004 8:45:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur
You'd better do any "deal" you're going to do with JPII. His successor is likely to tell the SSPX to take a hike.

I'd add this qualifier: If Cardinal Hoyos is the next Pope, he will try to regularize SSPX to the extent he can.

And, yes, they should have accepted the apostolic administration. That's the best they can realistically hope for, unless they intend to remain in an irregular status. It would have been beneficial to the people who currently attend their Masses, to the people who are denied an indult Mass (or for whom it is extremely inconvenient), and to the Church as a whole.

47 posted on 06/03/2004 9:09:29 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: sinkspur

"Here's some news: ALL of the Cardinals promoted by JPII are Novus Ordo bishops. Every single one of them."

You think I don't know this? Here's more news--not one of them is a traditional Catholic. That should alarm anybody who cares about the Church. Right now these men are mediocrities at best. Many are disasters. Some are out and out heretics. That tells me this: that the Church is imploding precisely because it is being badly led. But no one can strong-arm the Holy Spirit, not even the Pope. No pontiff can force the flowers to bloom. Right now nothing is flourishing--for a good reason.


49 posted on 06/03/2004 10:12:12 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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