To: CatherineSiena
Unfortunately the bishops are not united on the import of the doctrine of the Holy Eucharist, as usual. The non-canonical bishops' national conference, patterned after the American democratic principles has made this possible. It used to be that a bishop was the supreme head of his See, answerable only to the pope (and of course, to God).
There are bishops such as Mahony of L.A. who shamelessly has said "the homos are welcome to receive Communion in my church." The Rainbow Sash group mistakenly believes that by a show of force at the most solemn of Catholic rituals (the reception of Holy Communion, they would be bringing their cause to the negotiating table. See, they know what the Eucharist is: It is what will bring either outrage or compassion to their cause. They are appealing to the bleeding hearts!
Shame on those bishops who are going to support this mockery of Our Lord! They will merely compound the mortality of sin into sacrilege. Homosexuality, lesbianism: the sin of Sodom is a non-negotiable issue, and like abortion, it is one of the four sins that cry out to Heaven for vengeance. The Catholic Church does not negotiate with terrorists, whether the rainbow kind or those who wilfully murder little babies in their mother's womb.
Mattheus
6 posted on
05/27/2004 1:29:59 PM PDT by
Mattheus
(Deus in adjutorium. O God, come to my assistance; O Lord, make haste to help me. -- Psalm 69:2)
To: Mattheus
I just moved to Minneapolis - and am quite surprised at the lack of knowledge some of the writers in this forum have of our Catholic church. It seems everyone is forgetting that less than 150 years ago, our Catholic leaders were MANDATING the separation of our Jewish brothers and sisters into ghettos and forcing them to wear markings on their clothing indicate their Jewish heritage. That was Cannon law in the mid 1800-s. Would you, Mattheus support such an action today? Would you force your Jewish neighbors to leave their homes and live segregated from your friends and neighbors?
It seems as though we are forgetting the hundreds of children the Catholic church kidnapped from their families - that is correct - forcibly taking them from their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, in the name of cannon law. Mattheus - Cannon law stated that a Catholic child could not live with a Jewish family. Domestic workers, cooks, nannies, etc were 'secretly' baptizing Jewish children when the Jewish parents were not around. The Pope mandated that in those circumstances, the children were to be taken from their families to live in the House of the Catechumens - with little or no contact with their families. Mattheus - If that were still Cannon law, would you feel righteous in helping a Priest essentially kidnap a child from his family?
My point here is that our Catholic Church has not always adhered to 'God's law' - in fact, it has blatantly advocated activities that every one of us would judge today as 'wrong' .. as a 'sin'.. as 'immoral' ..
Mattheus - you have written that "The Rainbow Sash group mistakenly believes that by a show of force at the most solemn of Catholic rituals (the reception of Holy Communion, they would be bringing their cause to the negotiating table." - I am not a member of the Rainbow Sash group - nor do I know a single member of the group. I do, however, know that Jesus fought his causes in the holiest of places in his time. Jesus did not leave his 'causes' at the door when he entered the Temples.
I need your help on something, Mattheus. Since you believe that homosexuals are sinners, I have been searching the New Testament for passages that would support excluding sinners of any kind from the Holy Eucharist. Oddly enough, the only things I can find are about Jesus INCLUDING people in meals.. not EXCLUDING them. I cannot find anything that says Jesus refused to sit down as an equal and break bread with the Tax Collectors, for example.
Since Jesus asked us to 'do this in remembrance of me' I guess I feel like I should be following his example, rather than doing the exact opposite. What do you think?
13 posted on
09/12/2004 8:58:58 PM PDT by
a0t0e0
(Do this in remembrance of me)
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