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To: siunevada
When Judas died his "office" did not disappear from the face of the earth.

That's an assumption on your part as the Bible says no such thing. My only evidence is the word of God.

Bishoprick means 'oversight'. For the church to be established (which was yet to happen at this time), God wanted 12 apostles in place. If your hypothesis were true, however, then we would see a replacement for James after he was killed by Herod and for every apostle that was killed.

27 posted on 05/27/2004 8:51:33 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular.)
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To: asformeandformyhouse
That's an assumption on your part as the Bible says no such thing. My only evidence is the word of God.

So what was Peter doing? What is the "office" occupied by Matthias?

God wanted 12 apostles in place.

And Paul made 13.

If your hypothesis were true, however, then we would see a replacement for James after he was killed by Herod and for every apostle that was killed.

True enough, if the Acts of the Apostles were a highly detailed history book in the 21st century manner of historical documentation.

Then we could put aside all the discussion and get down to the real work, prayer.

34 posted on 05/27/2004 9:04:06 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: asformeandformyhouse

All were replaced. We call those replacement bishops. The first bishops were relaced by other bishops and so on down to now. Some replacements were recorded. Loss of records does not mean that the act did not occur or that it was blotted from reality.The paper does not make the reality.


258 posted on 05/27/2004 5:14:28 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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