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To: William Terrell
Excuse me, but is this saying that unless I become a Catholic, worship at its alters, spread its dogma, contribute to its coffers and follow its rules and recognize the Pope as my personal interpreter of Christ, my soul is condemed to Hell?

That is exactly what it's saying, unless you are a pagan, then as long as you live a good life and don't commit any mortal sins, you are covered regardless of any relationship to Christ or the Church.

That RC rule only applies to Protestants.

152 posted on 05/27/2004 1:58:31 PM PDT by redeemed_by_His_blood
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To: redeemed_by_His_blood
unless you are a pagan, then as long as you live a good life and don't commit any mortal sins

Quite a rare bird, that is. I wouldn't be too worried about it.

SD

158 posted on 05/27/2004 2:01:46 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: redeemed_by_His_blood; SoothingDave
Then, I am sorry. I'm forced to reject the pronouncements of an organizaton so weak that its substance can be eaten out by homosexuality and pedophilia, unstopped by authority, and righteously question whether such an organization has any power at all, much less to condem one of the Lord God's souls.

The arrogance.

165 posted on 05/27/2004 2:10:27 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: redeemed_by_His_blood; SoothingDave
That is exactly what it's saying, unless you are a pagan, then as long as you live a good life and don't commit any mortal sins, you are covered regardless of any relationship to Christ or the Church.

This is wrong - it isn't what the Church teaches at all.

Since, then, without faith it is impossible to please God [Heb 11, 6.] and reach the fellowship of his sons and daughters, it follows that no one can ever achieve justification without it, neither can anyone attain eternal life unless he or she perseveres in it to the end. (First Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution Dei Filius, ch. 3 §9)
Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him [Heb. 11:6], yet a necessity lies upon the Church [1 Cor. 9:16], and at the same time a sacred duty, to preach the Gospel. (Second Vatican Council, Decree Ad Gentes)

182 posted on 05/27/2004 2:39:56 PM PDT by gbcdoj (in mundo pressuram habetis, sed confidite, ego vici mundum)
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