[conservonator]

Is that the only definition? Did Christ establish a visible Church, and institution to preserve truth and guide the flock? Or did he establish a loose federation of "believers" that can't agree on anything, use different names to describe themselves, reject portions of scripture that give them problems and interpret other sections to fit their notions of what salvation, church, Christ, faith, works, etc mean.

[redeemed_by_His_blood]

He didn't ordain the Roman church to be THE church, that is for sure.