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To: Alamo-Girl; White Mountain
But more to the point of whole discussion, you are rightfully concerned about people like Joseph Smith, the Pope, Jim Jones and many others who declare to have a personal revelation from God, the only true doctrine and compel others to follow their leader.

But I would put anyone who asks others to follow himself or his private revelation rather than God in exactly the same bucket and that is why I eschew all doctrine and traditions of men – including Calvin and Arminius and seemingly neverending authorities and commentators.

I assert that we must focus utterly on the Great Commandments – to love God absolutely and everyone else unconditionally. We must let nothing whatsoever obscure our view of God. No doctrine, tradition, authority or mortal must get in between unless the Father personally establishes it which He did in Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and the Scriptures.

1-The Lord tells us to try all spirits to see if they be of him.

2-The Lord is consistant same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Now many believe that it is every mam for himself which is confussion! will there NOT be Orderly giudance for those who are HIS? I do not believe as the deist we are on our own!

3-Does not the Lord leads through prophets and his annoited ones who are called as was Aaron. (Amos 3:8;Heb.5:4)

Amos 3
7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

Hebrews 13
1 LET brotherly love continue.

2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.

4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.

Heb. 5
Ministers must be called of God as was Aaron—Christ was a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek—Jesus Christ is the author of eternal salvation.

1 FOR every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:

2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.

3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins.

4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.

5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

EX.28
1 AND take thou unto thee Aaron thy brother, and his sons with him, from among the children of Israel, that he may minister unto me in the priest’s office, even Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, Eleazar and Ithamar, Aaron’s sons.

2 And thou shalt make holy garments for Aaron thy brother for glory and for beauty.

3 And thou shalt speak unto all that are wise hearted, whom I have filled with the spirit of wisdom, that they may make Aaron’s garments to consecrate him, that he may minister unto me in the priest’s office.

4 And these are the garments which they shall make; a breastplate, and an ephod, and a robe, and a broidered coat, a mitre, and a girdle: and they shall make holy garments for Aaron thy brother, and his sons, that he may minister unto me in the priest’s office.

I believe there is structure and a pattern that is of the Lord. I believe there is a firm foundation, a restoration which was promised, and if you study each dispensation you will see there was instructions from the Lord which the previous generation did NOT have for did not relate to their circumstans, but to each dispensation the WORDS of the Lord is given to enable those to get through the mind fields. The Lord reveals according to our needs to know.

22 posted on 05/29/2004 1:17:36 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
1-The Lord tells us to try all spirits to see if they be of him.

By their fruit you will know them , nuf said :>)

24 posted on 05/29/2004 1:46:06 PM PDT by RnMomof7 ("You did not choose me I chose you " Jesus Christ)
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To: restornu; White Mountain
Thank you so much for your post and for sharing those passages! And thank you both for providing me with specific information concerning LDS theology and your personal testimonies.

The Lord reveals according to our needs to know.

Indeed, the Lord reveals according to our need to know. But He also reveals Himself when we ask to know Him better or more fully, sometimes giving us understanding of Scriptures and sometimes in revealing His majesty concerning whatever is troubling us at the moment.

I have asked Him about some of the things which you have disclosed to me and He has not confirmed them and therefore I do not accept the additional scriptures of the Church of Jesus Christ of the Later Day Saints.

Please do not take this as a personal affront. I have had the same lack of confirmation with regard to most of the traditions of Catholic church and therefore I do not accept them either.

Nevertheless, any mortal being who confesses that Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God, that He suffered and died as a propitiation for our sin and now sits at the right hand of the Father in heaven has the most important spiritual landmark in clear sight.

If all who perceive that landmark will only also ask for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, the Father will provide and the Spirit will lead all of us to Truth!

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall [your] heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? - Luke 11:13

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. - John 16:13

It is my earnest prayer that we all shall become "captive of the Word of God".

25 posted on 05/29/2004 1:46:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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