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To: gbcdoj

Nonsense. Nothing on the scale of what has happened in this pontificate has been known since the Renaissance. It is the scale and the routine nature of the scandals that are significant. There is enormous corruption and lack of faith--about which JPII does absolutely nothing--or rather, actually encourages by his lassitude and indifference.


59 posted on 05/15/2004 6:18:12 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio; Viva Christo Rey
Nothing on the scale of what has happened in this pontificate has been known since the Renaissance.

We are discussing whether the Pope is the Pope. Do you consider Leo X, etc. antipopes because of the corruption? If not it is irrelevant to the topic, which is convincing Viva Christo Rey to stop his slander of the Pope as a heretic and of the Roman Rite as the "abomination of desolation".

Here's a canon for you:

Can. 1373 A person who publicly incites among subjects animosities or hatred against the Apostolic See or an ordinary because of some act of power or ecclesiastical ministry or provokes subjects to disobey them is to be punished by an interdict or other just penalties.

63 posted on 05/15/2004 6:34:34 PM PDT by gbcdoj (in mundo pressuram habetis, sed confidite, ego vici mundum)
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