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To: D-fendr
"Nothing gets our religious blood boiling like attacking others"

I would suggest if you have the time you go back and review the trails of threads leading up to this post. You'll find all of this started as a result of a Catholic post. As soon as someone post something contrary to what you believe it's considered an attack.

And, BTW, I don't think anything I've said was an attack. Many Catholics, including the Pope, have forsaken an evangelistic message for a message of appeasement. This is not an attack. This is fact as evidenced by some of these articles.

If you don't wish to take a Protestant word for it read some of the excellent posts by narses. At least some honorable Catholics in the Catholic Church have recognized this.

Me-"I'm not in the recruitment business."

You-"Good thing, you'd go broke."

It's up to God to use me if He so desires. I certainly wouldn't do it for profit.

32 posted on 05/16/2004 12:08:05 PM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: HarleyD
have forsaken an evangelistic message for a message of appeasement.

I have found that confusing. No one is telling them that in order to be saved they must believe in Jesus Christ and not just as a prophet. Which is it, "no one can come unto the Father but by Me" or not calling them to conversion because it is proving to be all night but impossible in their cultic mindset.

I can understand the hope that by acting in a Christian manner, the pope may hope to draw others to Christianity. That much make sense and is a start. Still they are not being specifically told, amid countless opportunities, that they must believe in Jesus Christ as savior in order to be saved.

Unless in the end Jesus lets them in anyway, in which case I am not one to judge who is saved and who isn't.

34 posted on 05/16/2004 12:18:54 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: HarleyD
I would suggest if you have the time you go back and review the trails of threads leading up to this post.

As you can see I wasn't limiting it to this, but to other threads and articles you've posted.

The "I look at you Catholics as my mission field - my cross to bear" comment is indicative of the attitude of condescension. It's insulting, particularly from someone with so little knowledge, much less appreciation, of Catholicism and of the great work of this Pope.

I don't think anything I've said was an attack.

Call it criticism, opposition, whatever you wish; the point is still the same:

When our passion is focused so strongly on criticising others, on what we oppose, then what we are for is lost and devalued.

When you criticise - with such ignorance - my faith and all it has done for me and millions of others you only make me appreciate it more. And you make even more clear to me that whatever religious teaching motivates you to this effort, I am grateful not to be part of.

It's up to God to use me if He so desires.

Even in ways you do not intend. And for that I can be grateful.

41 posted on 05/16/2004 8:25:19 PM PDT by D-fendr
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