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1 posted on 05/10/2004 9:01:42 AM PDT by CatherineSiena
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To: CatherineSiena
I attended this Mass, as St. Mary's is my parish. It was beautiful and Fr. Johnson is a wonderful Priest. May God bless him in his retirement.
4 posted on 05/10/2004 9:30:40 AM PDT by gubamyster
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Wow!! What a really outstanding article from a secular source. Let's give the LA Times credit for sending out a couple of reporters who really get it.

This situation, however, is very sad. Fr. Johnson was a remarkable priest. He made the rounds of his parish on a constant basis, and personally knocked on every single door in the boundaries of his parish 5 times during his time as pastor. He made hundreds, maybe even thousands of converts.

And all because the diocese wanted to give him the worst parish to keep him out of the way while they went about the process of their revolution.

I wonder if this will be happening in more and more locations during the next few years? Who will replace the aging priest who still remember how things used to be done. The priest who says the indult Mass in Cincinnati, for example, is an old Jesuit who has been in and out of hospitals and nursing homes over the past couple years. It's inspirational to see how he struggles to continue serving right up until his last breath, but he can't last much longer. What will happen then?
5 posted on 05/10/2004 9:30:51 AM PDT by Maximilian
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To: CatherineSiena
Here is more about Fr. Johnson and the last tridentine Mass there written by a member of the parish:
The traditional Mass did go out with a bang, though. In the first place it was as crowded as I've ever seen it. This noon Mass was SRO by 11:30. There were people along the side walls, a few people standing in the center aisle, the back of the church was full, the vestibule was full, there were people on the porch and going down the front steps. It was a solemn Mass, with celebrant, deacon,and subdeacon, crowds of altar boys, and several priests attending "in choir". The schola was of professional quality, some of the singers having sung with the Los Angeles Master Chorale. All the chant propers were sung and I think I recognized the Missa Papa Marcelli. A string quintet accompanied Mozart's Ave Verum Corpus at communion time.

No bishop found time in his busy schedule to honor this priest for 50 years of service.

Father Johnson was not well enough to celebrate the Mass but he gave the homily which was more of a farewell sermon as this Mass was in celebration of his 50 years as a priest and of his retirement as pastor and, as I believe the phrase is now, "from the active ministry." The sermon was one of his stem-winders. He spoke of his early priesthood and being a bit out of step with the times even before the council. The powers that be kicked him around even then, avoiding giving him a pastorate under any (or no) pretext. His "popularity" didn't increase after the council. After the council his refusal to give communion in the hand was something of a last straw. They offered him a couple of choices. Father says they offered to "recycle" him. He didn't want to be "recycled". (Who would? It sounds like one of Mao's re-education camps.) Or he could go to this little out-of-the-way, one-priest parish on the verge of closure if he didn't take. Nobody much attended there and they figured he couldn't do any "damage". The priest who was leaving said he'd get about 17 confessions during the Christmas season. That was St. Mary's 25 years ago.

The first thing he did was install an altar rail and make the sanctuary look like a sanctuary again. And he was off and running. The second thing he did was begin an extra Mass, a Latin N.O. High Mass at noon, which he didn't need permission for, and petition the bishop to allow him to make it a traditional Roman Rite Mass. The number of parishioners has multiplied many times over from his first days. These days he gets 17 confessions on the average week day. Confessions are heard 7 days a week at St. Mary's. (Or they were up until today. Monday will be a new regime and time will tell what practices continue.) His converts are in the hundreds, if not the thousands. We heard many of them testify to his zeal at the celebration after Mass. Is there another priest in this country who has walked his entire parish and knocked on the door of every single residence within the boundaries, whether Catholic or not? And if there is, has he begun again as soon as he finished the last residence? Fr. Johnson has done it 5 times through and would still be doing it if his health had not let him down.

I don't mind admitting to a few tears. Fr. Johnson will be missed more than he will ever know. But there are a few silver linings. The first, and probably the greatest is, that now as "an elderly, retired priest" he will be able to celebrate the traditional Mass every morning, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, instead of just once a week. Even if I can't attend it, it's good to know this saintly man is celebrating it and bringing its graces down to our needy land. And, of course, it is not the end of every traditional Mass. There are others in the nearby Archdiocese of Los Angeles. They will mostly take a bit of driving to get to, but I did get new tires last week. Should be all set for a few long treks. And there are the Eastern Rite churches; always a glorious option.

There is one more option which was suggested by the diocese in an exquisite bit of smarmy cynicism. If we don't like the new rite, we can "always go to San Juan Capistrano". Yes, indeed, we can. How true. You may know there is an indult Mass at the Serra chapel in Capistrano. It's a magnificent setting for the old Mass. There is a glorious, gold-leaf Spanish baroque reredos and some wonderful old Spanish statues and paintings. The chapel is over 200 years old. But here's the rub: it is also very tiny. The people who currently attend there need to arrive by 7:30 in order to get a seat for the 8:00 a.m. Mass. If you don't arrive until 8:00, you probably won't even be able to stand in the vestibule. You probably won't be able to see the Mass at all. Suggesting another 2 or 3 hundred people attend San Juan Capistrano gives you an idea of the sort of diseased humor that masquerades as pastoral care in some quarters.


7 posted on 05/10/2004 9:36:36 AM PDT by Maximilian
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Starting next week, St. Mary's will continue to hold Sunday Masses in Latin, but it will be in the form of the modern Mass, with different prayers from those of the Tridentine service.

EWTN has revised its Sunday liturgy to a High Mass in Latin. It follows the Novus Ordo Rite but is now completely in Latin with incense, brocade vestments, 6 candles on the altar. Most impressive and quite beautiful! No contemporary music either.

Mother Angelica once again demonstrates that the new Rite can follow the norms established by VCII.

11 posted on 05/10/2004 9:47:44 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: CatherineSiena
he did not want to be subjected to the modern Mass, with its "peace hugs," its "campfire music and hootenanny music."

Ouch. I don't mind the sign of peace, but as for the music...

At the beginning of Mass, 11 altar boys, most in red satin robes, announced the entrance of a coterie of priests with candles and incense. Father Justin Ramos, who said the Mass, walked down the aisle in a gold brocade cape.

Their arrival at the altar was marked by unadorned male voices from the choir that delivered Gregorian chant. Then Ramos walked back up the aisle, sprinkling the congregation with holy water that prompted members of the standing-room-only congregation to bow in waves.

In Latin, Ramos led a prayer for mercy and salvation:

"Ostende nobis, Domine, misericordiam tuam."

"Et salutare tuum da nobis," the worshipers responded.

Who can argue that there isn't more of a sense of the sacred here? I think Mother Angelica has done the best at capturing the sacred in her version of the new Mass.
18 posted on 05/10/2004 10:31:04 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Because of Johnson's retirement, the Diocese of Orange has decided to stop offering the Tridentine Mass at St. Mary's by the Sea,

I knew it.

19 posted on 05/10/2004 10:34:17 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The day the Church abandons her universal tongue is the day before she returns to the catacombs-PXII)
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To: CatherineSiena
Thank you for posting this. I live near Boston and attend the Latin Mass at the Holy Trinity Church in S. Boston. We have a Fr. Johnson too, and like the priest in this story he is aged and infirm. Sadly, the Boston newspapers very recently listed the Holy Trinity Church as one of the churches that is being considered for closing by the Archdiocese due to the financial crisis resulting from the sex scandal. Making matters worse, this old Chruch is an historical shrine of sorts, with a grand high altar, incredible architecture, gorgeous statuary, near life-size Stations, stained glass windows and huge, marvelous murals painted high on the walls. It's a crying shame what is happening to our beloved Catholic Church. But the Church will prevail.
22 posted on 05/10/2004 11:02:47 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: CatherineSiena
This is very sad.

40 posted on 05/10/2004 3:55:16 PM PDT by Desdemona (Evil attacks good. Never forget.)
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Thanks for the article ... lots of beauty, lots of integrity, but lots of sadness.
42 posted on 05/10/2004 4:13:40 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: CatherineSiena
Bumpus ad summum
59 posted on 05/11/2004 3:04:07 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: CatherineSiena
I grew up with thte Latin Mass and thought it was wonderful.

I recently went to mass in NY where there was a 6'0" cross behind the Alter but it did not have the crucified Body of Christ on it. There was no other Crucifix in the auditorium that I could see.
I felt the emty cross was wrong.
60 posted on 05/11/2004 5:19:56 AM PDT by chatham
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