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To: Teleosis
Like wise, I do not have time to rebut your Masonic
"Disinformation" taught by our "Controlled"
theological institutions today. But I shall answer, this your"last" post.
To your first two paragraphs, I say, "Masonic Gobbledygook"
You keep "dodging' my requests. I asked you to go to your Local Synagogue, and you give me this "I have a Hebrew Bible" routine.Your Hebrew / Interlinear/English Bible is
"suspect", as this kind of routine was used to "qualify" the NKJV, as "equal" to the KJV, and "from the same source"
they said, even had "Mason" Jerry Falwell, endorse it as "the same". Guess what, they LIED !!!

Corruption of the original Bible manuscripts, and its influence , can be traced from the days of Origen, 200-250 AD, down through the committees responsible for the English Revised Version of 1881,(Wesctt/Hort) The American Standard Version of 1901, and all modern Bibles which depart from the Greek "Textus Receptus", N.Testament text.

As for your referring to "Masonic affiliated scholars", who try to discredit the only book in the English Language, that comes from the "correct" source , and is proven to be God's "Infallible Word",( as opposed to all other books in the English Language , that claim to be God's Word, it is the only one that does not "contradict itself" as in 2.Sam.21:19, and over 5000 other places, for the NIV )

As for your listing prior "Learned sholars" and their
"sholarly opinions", negating the KJV. I can come up with a List three times Longer than you can, I have "been down that road", and found it to be "full of error".
To point you in the right direction, I would start with
Dean Burgon, asd his "never refuted" argument on the KJV.
Next,you have,Dr. Fredrick Nolan, the Diatessaron by Tatian, J.Hill's article about Origon,(by McClintic & Strong ) Church History, vol2,p.791-Dr. Schaff; Apologia pro vita sua, Chapt.7,p.282-Dr.Newman; History of our English Bible,p.70-Dr. Ira M. Price;Introduction to Textual Criticism of N.T.,p.80-A.T. Robertson; The Canon and Text of the N.T.,p.345-Dr.Gregory; Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol4,p.86; Eccles History,Book 5,chapt.28-Eusebius; (Scribners)Vol.1,pp.434-435-Ante-Nicene Fathers; History of Dogma, Vol.1,p.128-Harnack; Three Religious Leaders of Oxford,pp.481-482-S.Parkes Cadman;
Princeton Review,Jan., 1854,pp.152-153; History of Christianity, Vol2, p.107; History of Christian Doctrine,p.19-G.P.Fisher; Texts and margins of the Revised N.T., p.45-Dr. G.Vance Smith; A History of the Revised Version, pp.36-37-Samuel Hemphill; The Traditional Text,p.163-Burgon & Miller; Introduction to Greek O.T.,p.86-Swete; Catholic and Protestant Bibles,p.4,6-Jacobus; Jerome against Helvidius; Defense of Translations of the Bible(1583),p.62-Faulke; Memoir of Life of Cartwright, p.276-Brook's; The Catholic Encyclopedia, article on Douay Bible; Revised Version, p.51-Cook; Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers(Christian Lit. Ed.),Vol.6,p.338; The Influence of the Bible,p.136-Von Dobschutz; Church History, Vol. 2,p.446-Hagenbach; History of the Reformation,Vol2,p.391-Kurtz;
This is just for "starters" , you can find many more if you care to look in "the Right direction", instead of believing the "misinformation" Scholars.

Now as to your comment about the NIV being "essentially the same" as the KJV, I need to "prove you wrong" again,
not so much to instruct you ,(as I think you are to
"indoctrinated" into Heresy, to be able to turn around, as you are obviously caught in the grip of the "Spirit of Error" as spoken of in scripture, however, I shall be praying for your salvation, what is Impossible with Man , is Possible with God ) but for clarification to all those reading your erroneous "assertions" and "Declarative Statements" both Linguistically and Doctrinally. So let us examine some scriptures in Luke, that you claim are
"essentially the same" in the False NIV, as the KJV.
Lk. 1:28, "Blessed art thou among Women" (taken out of NIV)

Lk.2:33 "Joseph" (is changed to Father, in NIV) Doing away with Christs Deity, and the Incarnation.

Lk.2:43 "Joseph and His Mother" (changed to Parents)again
a refutation of Christs Deity.

Lk. 4:4 "But by every Word of God" (taken out in NIV)

Lk. 4:8 "Get thee behind me SATAN" (taken out in NIV )

Lk. 6:48 "Founded Upon a Rock" ( changed to; is well built)

Lk. 9:54 " Even as Elijah did" ( taken out in NIV )

also look up, Lk.9:55-56, 11:2-4, 11:29, 17:36, 21:4, 22:20 and 31, and 64, 23:17,38,42,45, 24:3,6,12,40,49,51

Look at all these changes and omissions !!!
And you have the "nerve" to say that the NIV is
"essentially the same" as the KJV ? The NIV is a DIFFERENT BOOK Entirely !!! A "Different Gospel". No wonder you are "all messed up" reading it. Paul "rested" his whole doctrine on one letter, the letter "S" , the Seed of the woman,(1.Tim.3)in the singular.
Notice, you change one verb, and you change the whole Doctrine. What do you think happen to the Bible when you
make over 5000 changes in the New Testament alone, which
Hort admitted to ? You might as well take that book you read, and "chuck it out the window"

As to your other statements, on the book of Revelation, you have demonstrated that you are so far from the "truth" on this subject, that I am not going to even comment on it. (For those who are interested I do teach on this subject. Have your Pastor invite me to speak at your Church)
I have to ask you ,if have another relative, by the name
of, Sun Myung Moon? You are one confused Puppy !!!

Your last comment about "Prophets, major and minor" absolutely solidifies my opinion about your "Masonic"
Indoctrination. God's Prophets do not come in "majors or Minors" they come in "True or False". Majors and minors belong in the Army, Kindergarten, and Music.
Lastly, let me tell you the purpose of theologians.
They write commentaries, the commentary, is to tell us , that God did not mean what he said. See, as carnal Human
beings, we do not like what is in the Bible, because it tells Us things we don't like an d things we don't want to know, from cover to cover. That's why we have Theologians around......to make it , so we like it Better !!!!!

End of discussion with teleosis

Sorensen
148 posted on 05/21/2004 8:59:38 AM PDT by Sorensen
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To: Sorensen

Just a thought here, Sorensen...For someone who claims to be a teacher/missionary type, you are awfully pretentious. Frankly given your condescending attitude, you'll be lucky to get anyone to even read your posts, much less engage in meaningful discussion.


149 posted on 05/21/2004 9:37:26 AM PDT by opus86
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