[Smocker]

Ah, Stinkie, nice to see you so ineffectively counterargued and ignored any comments regarding Fr. Gruner and the nonconsecration of Russia from me, and went on to post offensive comments to the next person.
We still have several points you are assiduosly working at ignoring:
a. Fr. Gruner is and always will be a consecrated priest, and as such should be spoken of with respect.
b. Pope John Paul II himself said he was awaiting the Consecration of Russia.

Neither point, were you able to either change or dispute, so of course, you will ignore, name call, and move on to stink up the next person's comment box.

[sinkspur]

Sister Lucia herself disputes your second point; she says that Russia is consecrated.

As for Gruner, you believe whatever you want about him. All I know is that he's been suspended from his priestly duties.

Sexual abusers are consecrated priests, forever, too, but I owe them no respect.