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I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT WE OR I CHOOSE GOD. THE HOLY SPIRIT CONVICTS OF SIN, NO WAIT A MINUTE THERE IS NO NEED OF CONVICTION WITH CALVINISM YOUR PREDESTINED. THERE WAS REALLY NO NEED FOR THE ATONEMENT YOUR PREDESTINED. YOUR PART OF THE GOOD OL BOYS CLUB PREDESTINED ELECTED SELECTED. NO NEED TO PREACH THE GOOD NEWS YOUR GOING TO HEAVEN WEATHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT. THE ODDS ARE AGAINST YOU THAT NOT EVERYONE IN YOUR FAMILY IS PART OF THE ELECT, SO I GUESS YOU WON'T BE SEEING THEM IN HEAVEN....RIGHT!"

Why are you yelling? You do not understand Calvinism . You are shadow boxing. Calvinists believe that God ordained the means and method of salvation. Every man MUST repent and believe to be saved. That is Gods plan .PLEASE do not slander us with your misunderstanding.

What we do believe is that no man will choose to repent and believe without being Born again (regenerated) by the grace of God.

Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

If you have repented and believed you are one of the elect. You are not elect because of your choice , but you believed BECAUSE you are elect.

God has graciously allowed men to participate in HIS plan of salvation by using us to give the gospel ,

"Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God."

As you read in John everyone taught of God will come with out fail.

Gods will is ALWAYS done when the Bible is preached

Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:> it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.

I was looking for your answer to my earlier post on election by foreknowledge. Have you compiled one yet?

If you have repented and believed you are one of the elect. You are not elect because of your choice, but you BELIEVED because you are elect.

Pretty simple, RnMom. Amazing so many get it backwards and inside out.

"Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ." -- 1 Peter 1:13