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To: Cvengr
It can also be read chosen or good pleasing choice, so the verse doesn't imply God trumps the will of man and forces man to become saved,

This sentence explains what the Calvinist means when they say that Arminians do not believe God is sovereign. The prime importance is for man to control God , have his own way and to make God a passive observer

How little respect you have to think that a man would have to be FORCED to become "saved" . You write like it is a fate worse than death, that God would desire to have you as His own and to spend eternity with him. So we must fight for what is really important , the will to go to hell.

The fact is that most of the world has the absolute free will to reject the gospel..they do not hear it , understand it or desire it. They are completely free to go their own way . The elect thank God that He chose them to be given a new heart and a will that desires Him.It was an unearned gift, a blessing ..

Hsa 11:4 I drew them with cords of a man, with bands of love: and I was to them as they that take off the yoke on their jaws, and I laid meat unto them.

Jhn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

.rather, salvation through our faith in Jesus Christ meets with is prior pleasure in choosing the mechanism of faith just as Jesus Christ's faith was counted as righteousness as well.

This part of the sentence makes no sense to me.

Could you provide the scripture that says Jesus Christ was declared righteous by faith ?

48 posted on 05/16/2004 8:56:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Ro 3:20-24


51 posted on 05/17/2004 4:46:26 AM PDT by Cvengr (;^))
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