Interesting parallel. We are both agreed that God can do what He pleases. No problem there. But it wouldn't have been *fitting* for Him to create Jesus ex nihilo, don't you think? To be a man takes more than just a body plan--it takes being born into the family so to speak. To be part of the spiritual and genetic chain. How do you understand "Son of Man" if not some kind of genetic connection with Adam's race? How do you understand the geneology of Christ? You're kind of making him a humanoid rather than a human--He looks like us, acts like us, but is really something altogether. I'm no theologian but it smacks of Nestorianism.
And then (again) there's the whole difficulty with the "you shall conceive" in the Gospel account. I'm with you on the Virgin Birth because that is a mystery specifically attested by the Gospel. The creation of Jesus' body ex nihilo however, is a presumption on the text and not an explicit teaching, or even a valid inference therefrom. Sure God *can* make Abraham's children out of stones--but *did* He do it in this particular instance? Frankly, I don't see any evidence that He did.
It doesn't matter at all what I think. The bible reminds me of that fact often.
To be a man takes more than just a body plan--it takes being born into the family so to speak.
I've already completely and totally disproven this with one verse.
To be part of the spiritual and genetic chain. How do you understand "Son of Man" if not some kind of genetic connection with Adam's race? How do you understand the geneology of Christ? You're kind of making him a humanoid rather than a human--He looks like us, acts like us, but is really something altogether. I'm no theologian but it smacks of Nestorianism.
I'm not doing this and would have never suggested it was not Mary's egg if it weren't for the verse I quoted. It's not something that I was ever concerned with but the verse is there for a reason.
And then (again) there's the whole difficulty with the "you shall conceive" in the Gospel account. I'm with you on the Virgin Birth because that is a mystery specifically attested by the Gospel.
Let me just say here that this "I'm with you part" means a lot more as I consider Islam and some of the athiest liberals that I've met and seen lately. Sure we have some disagreements about how many of Mary's eggs can fit on the head of a pin, but given a choice between being locked in prison with some of the liberals I've met of a muslem or even my neighbors of questionable faith, I'd much rather be locked in prison with the likes of someone that has a firm belief in the birth and body and life of the Lord Jesus. That was a long sentence.
The creation of Jesus' body ex nihilo however, is a presumption on the text and not an explicit teaching, or even a valid inference therefrom. Sure God *can* make Abraham's children out of stones--but *did* He do it in this particular instance? Frankly, I don't see any evidence that He did.
Not explicit: Remember when the Lord criticises the Saducees about who will be married to whom when we are dead? Remember His criticism of the type of scriptural "teaching". It is this that causes me to look so closely at things that seem strange.