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To: Mershon; royalcello
The invitation is rescinded. We don't need that poison in our growing and evangelical traddie community. We need people who will attract others to the Faith when fighting aginst the fundies--NOT people to drive them away.

I sincerely apologize if I offended you. The church was obviously designed with the Novus ordo and modernism in mind. Why are there pillows on the floor of the sanctuary? Look at the crucifix - Why does the corpus look more like a hula dancer?

I have been in your position….spiritually starved. I can see why a twice-a-month Sunday Tridentine Mass is so appealing, but it’s only a snack. Why discourage royalcello from attending the SSPX chapel which is a spiritual banquet of tradition with two Sunday Masses every week of the year, all the sacraments, catechism, public processions and devotions, traditional sermons, etc?

Has your bishop guaranteed the Mass in Greenville for any period of time or is the FSSP operating on a week-to-week basis? Why has your diocese lost two of its best priests to the SSPX in the last 18 months? Why did Bishop Baker’s rising star Fr. Christopher Danel leave the Charleston diocese for the SSPX?

If you don’t like the SSPX then don’t attend. Our Masses don’t get yanked from us. We don’t have to move around the country chasing after good priests not knowing from week to week whether they will be allowed to say the Mass which was guaranteed to them in perpetuity. We don’t have to compromise our Catholic beliefs and traditions for fear that we will be seen as troublemakers.

You have a standing, open invitation to assist at the Mass of all time, on a weekly basis, an hour and a half up the road - an invitation that won't be rescinded.

83 posted on 04/27/2004 6:05:18 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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To: Grey Ghost II
You have a standing, open invitation to assist at the Mass of all time, on a weekly basis, an hour and a half up the road - an invitation that won't be rescinded.

Thank-you.

What are the times of your two Masses and when is the sacrament of Confession? I will be visiting Greenville soon, but it will be on the first Sunday of June. Do you have a first Saturday Mass? I'm willing to make the drive, regardless.

86 posted on 04/27/2004 9:27:38 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Grey Ghost II
"The invitation is rescinded. We don't need that poison in our growing and evangelical traddie community. We need people who will attract others to the Faith when fighting aginst the fundies--NOT people to drive them away."

I sincerely apologize if I offended you.

BCM: Didn't offend me in the least. I am, however, thinking of our other parishioners and new converts.

The church was obviously designed with the Novus ordo and modernism in mind.

BCM: Now there is a theological sound statement. Where in Pascendi does it speak about Prince of Peace church in Taylors being designed as a "modernist" church? Since the altar is accessible for offering Holy Mass facing the people or ad orientem, it was actually a Novus Ordo parish, but with the TLM in mind to make it accessible for it.

Why are there pillows on the floor of the sanctuary?

For the bells. I have seen these at many churches, including two traditional Latin Mass parishes. Perhaps you don't get out much.

Look at the crucifix - Why does the corpus look more like a hula dancer?

And this bears a response? Have you ever seen Eastern-rite icons before? Got any familiarity with the Eastern-rite Catholic Church. Quite traditional, I might add.

I have been in your position….spiritually starved.

BCM: Nope, I'm not. Read the article. We are growing, attracting converts. Have two or three college-age guys going to Rockford's Latin Mass Conference (Rockford, IL) in mid-May. They are all seriously considering FSSP or ICKSP. Converts as well.

I can see why a twice-a-month Sunday Tridentine Mass is so appealing, but it’s only a snack.

BCM: Because are soon going to have a weekly, plus periodic days during the week. You have that in Charlotte? Weekly TLMs? Do you?

Why discourage royalcello from attending the SSPX chapel which is a spiritual banquet of tradition with two Sunday Masses every week of the year, all the sacraments, catechism, public processions and devotions, traditional sermons, etc?

BCM: Public processions and devotions are great. So are all the other things you describe. However, I can licitly attend the Greek or Coptic Orthodox churches in Greenville (much closer), fulfill my Sunday obligation, and have the same thing. Why drive to Charlotte to attend a church in an "irregular" situation? No daily TLM though, do you?



97 posted on 04/28/2004 6:59:39 AM PDT by Mershon
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To: Grey Ghost II
Has your bishop guaranteed the Mass in Greenville for any period of time or is the FSSP operating on a week-to-week basis?

Has yours? Father Brovey is the director of Worship and Prayer for the Diocese of Charleston. Stella Maris has a weekly traditional Latin Mass (in Sullivans Island), with first Friday TLM as well. We will soon, God willing, have a weekly TLM, with at least one TLM during the week as well.

Why has your diocese lost two of its best priests to the SSPX in the last 18 months?

I know of Fr. Danel. Actually, Fr. Danel is not an SSPX priest. He is merely serving at their chapels. Who would the other one be?

Why did Bishop Baker’s rising star Fr. Christopher Danel leave the Charleston diocese for the SSPX?

Father Danel has spelled this out clearly in the Angelus Press book. Have you read it? I have. I do not try to drive others toward scandal, nor take scandal myself, as it is sinful. Have you read traditional moral theology?

If you don’t like the SSPX then don’t attend.

I never said "I don't like SSPX." I make distinctions. You and many of the "adherents" do not.

Our Masses don’t get yanked from us.

This is so nice that you get your way all the time.

We don’t have to move around the country chasing after good priests not knowing from week to week whether they will be allowed to say the Mass which was guaranteed to them in perpetuity.

Really? You mean you don't have people driving quite long distances to go to your chapel? Mableton, GA does. I wonder why people drive long distances to go there, and it is growing rapidly?

We don’t have to compromise our Catholic beliefs and traditions for fear that we will be seen as troublemakers.

Not fearing anything. You have no idea what kind of slander and detraction is spread about us within the diocese and parishioners. Frankly, as long as I'm with my bishop and pastor, and they are with me, I could care less if anyone thinks I'm a troublemaker.

You have a standing, open invitation to assist at the Mass of all time, on a weekly basis, an hour and a half up the road - an invitation that won't be rescinded.

Thanks. I have thought about coming up there on several occasions, but there is a Maronite-rite Divine Liturgy in Greenville to attend on the off Sundays. Perhaps sometime I will come up there incognito. Actually, Father Brovey said he would like to attend sometime. I'm not interested in being "proselytized" however. How many converts entered your church on Easter?

We have evangelical traddie Catholics in Greenville--and in union with our local ordinary and with the Pope!

99 posted on 04/28/2004 7:19:11 AM PDT by Mershon
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