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To: Unam Sanctam
Here is what you say, much of it wrong: "However, it would appear that many "traditionalists" who post on this site go to masses of schismatic groups even if there is an indult mass available, and even if there is not one, they go far beyond attending a schismatic mass out of 'necessity,' but actually publicly and vocally proslytize on this site on behalf of schismatic groups, encourage others to disobey and disrespect the legitimate authorities of the Church, including the Pope, schismatically call into question the legitimate authority of the Pope and the Catholicity of the Church, speaking of a 'Novus Ordo Church' and other schismatic phrases"

Here are the facts.

1. Catholics may not only attend SSPX Masses for reasons of "necessity" alone--though many do for that reason--but also for reasons of devotion. Here is what Msgr. Perle of Ecclesia Dei said in his most recent letter on the subject:
"If your intention [for attending Mass at an SSPX chapel] is simply to participate in a Mass according to the 1962 Missal FOR THE SAKE OF DEVOTION, this would not be a sin." I would add that not only is it not a sin--but for many Catholics it is probably the only sure means of attaining grace for Mass attendance, given the sorry state of the Novus Ordo priesthood and episcopacy, as well as most Novus Ordo Masses. Of course we speak out on this site, by the way. Why should we let lies about us flourish without correction--or lies about the faith itself, for that matter?

2. No one I know who attends Mass at an SSPX chapel, nor any priest of the SSPX has ever called "into question the legitimate authority of the Pope and the Catholicity of the Church." This is more of your nonsense. I repeat--NEVER have we called into question JPII's legitimacy. This was untrue from the first day it was uttered--and was an untrue statement when JPII said as much in his Ecclesia Dei letter. We do, however, call into question his wisdom and his orthodoxy, as when he places his Catholicism on a par with Voodoo priests and animists, or attacks Catholic Tradition itself--and we have every right to do so as Catholics. But we do not question his legitimacy as pope. Nor do we question the Catholicity of the Church as you falsely state. We call into question the Catholicity of the Vatican bureaucracy--an altogether different thing.

The problem is that you recognize no distinction between the Vatican and the faith itself. But the Vatican is not the Church. Nor is it the faith.
42 posted on 04/27/2004 11:55:50 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
You counsel disobedience to the Pope. You falsely accuse him of being unorthodox. You call him a "Novus Ordo authority". It is quite clear that your intent is schismatic. You do not fit within the permission.
69 posted on 04/27/2004 3:32:34 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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