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To: ArrogantBustard; Desdemona; Maximilian
There is no doubt about what the Vatican wants--and there is no doubt that it will be up to the Bishops to make it happen.

Altar girls are transitory and Des. nailed it--they're an afterthought in the document, and should be similar at Mass.

Since there IS no such thing as "Liturgical Dance," the Vatican didn't have to address it. But they certainly nailed "Clown" Masses and Polka Masses, too.

Of course, there will be disobedience--and screeching from the usual quarters: the schismatics of the Poofterwonk persuasion, and the SSPX persuasion.

Nothing new under the Sun.
63 posted on 04/23/2004 2:02:46 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
Altar girls are transitory

Not after an official Church document grants bishops the right to use them. Don't count on that authority to be pulled back.

64 posted on 04/23/2004 2:17:35 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: ninenot
Altar girls are transitory and Des. nailed it--they're an afterthought in the document, and should be similar at Mass.

You get the idea that it was a sort of conciliatory add-in, just to keep the peace. It wouldn't surprise me if we see a big change in the next ten years.
70 posted on 04/23/2004 6:06:31 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: ninenot; ArrogantBustard; sandyeggo; lrslattery; NYer; sartorius
From Zenit

Document on Eucharist Underwent a Dozen Drafts

New Instruction Addresses a Key Concern of John Paul II

VATICAN CITY, APRIL 23, 2004 (Zenit.org).- The Vatican instruction "Redemptionis Sacramentum," on abuses regarding the Eucharist and the celebration of Mass, responds to one of John Paul II's key concerns, and went through a dozen drafts.

At a press conference today, Cardinal Francis Arinze, prefect of the Vatican Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments, revealed that the work of preparation began even before the Pope announced its commission officially in the 2003 encyclical "Ecclesia de Eucharistia."

The cardinal said that the instruction is the fruit of the intense collaboration of his congregation and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, whose prefect is Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.

Before the publication of the encyclical, "we asked our member bishops, cardinals and others to send us the complaints and doubts that are expressed to have an idea" of the problems to be addressed, Cardinal Arinze explained.

"Then, the two congregations established a joint commission at the beginning of last year. The two prefects and secretaries revised this work," he added.

The first draft of the document was presented last May to all the members of the two congregations -- some 70 cardinals, archbishops and bishops. The text was then discussed last June.

"There was still much work after that, as a first draft always needs many changes. We then started the consultations and contributions. We have written some 12 drafts between May and two months ago," the cardinal said, adding with a smile "this is normal" for Vatican documents.

71 posted on 04/23/2004 6:16:00 PM PDT by Desdemona
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