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To: Land of the Irish
I'd need all my fingers and toes, and my wife's fingers and toes, and the fingers and toes of my two boys and, why, all the fingers of toes of every living human being on my block, to count the number of people you, LOI, seem eager to consign to the pits of hell.

When, in fact, you have no idea what you're talking about. Is this how traditionalists rally adherents to their cause? By their willingness to put people in HELL?

3 posted on 04/22/2004 8:45:09 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur
Oh please. People put themselves in hell.
4 posted on 04/22/2004 8:52:53 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: sinkspur
I'd need all my fingers and toes, and my wife's fingers and toes, and the fingers and toes of my two boys and...

lol
36 posted on 04/23/2004 1:26:58 AM PDT by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29, "Repentance.")
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To: sinkspur
I'd need all my fingers and toes, and my wife's fingers and toes, and the fingers and toes of my two boys and, why, all the fingers of toes of every living human being on my block, to count the number of people you, LOI, seem eager to consign to the pits of hell.The heterodox Sinkspur dissappoints again. The reason the article was posted is not on whether or not the dead agnostic man deserves to go to Hell or not. In fact, Land of the Irish nowhere "wished hellfire" on him.

The article was posted because this Monseignor Mannion, who is supposed to be a defender of the faith is propogating the wishy-washy, AmChurch idea of "If you're a nice person, you go to Heaven (or more accurately, if you think you're a nice person, no matter what you may have done, you go to Heaven")". Now, while I agree that salvation is open to whoever God wants to give it to, and I adhere to the doctrine of Invincible Ignorance, Catholic priests should not be going around teaching that "All ya need is love."

And quite frankly, you owe LOTI an apology.
41 posted on 04/23/2004 5:24:36 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: sinkspur
Is this how traditionalists rally adherents to their cause? By their willingness to put people in HELL?

Is this how Novus Ordo adherents rally to their cause? By giving people false hope?

42 posted on 04/23/2004 5:25:25 AM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: sinkspur
"By their willingness to put people in HELL?"

Perhaps some have gone to hell because those in the Church have not done their jobs and preach a false Gospel? Hell is real. Lying about the truth may help people send themselves there.
59 posted on 04/23/2004 8:20:18 AM PDT by johnb2004
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To: sinkspur; Land of the Irish
Sink, you asked, Is this how traditionalists rally adherents to their cause? By their willingness to put people in HELL?

Putting people in hell is a promise made by the Holy Trinity........

Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. -- Matthew 13:36-42

Just a little of the many verses of Holy Scripture the V2 New Church ignores at their peril and from which they will suffer the eternal pain of hell.

You can't be a Scripture cherry picker and a traditional Roman Catholic.

A traditional Roman Catholic finds favor with God only when he strives to adhere to the Almighty's Commandments and Scriptural direction, and as necessary, seeks forgiveness from God through a priest for sins he fervently regrets.

A Scripture cherry picker is a pretender. A fraud. A sinner. An abomination before God and man, and will likely go to hell.

88 posted on 04/24/2004 5:06:05 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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