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RCF Returns to Albany Diocese

Posted on 04/20/2004 5:44:17 PM PDT by Antoninus

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To: MindFire
NY, did you post a report on a previous RCF event? if so, i'd love to read it. Brady is a very good man. thanks!


REPORT FROM RCF MEETING - ALBANY NY - Feb. 22, 2004

Paul Likoudis STATEMENT TO THE PRESS

41 posted on 04/21/2004 6:43:33 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: NYer
No application to Rome is necessary.

Paul Weyrich had to apply to Rome when he switched from the Latin Rite to the Eastern Rite; things may have changed.

Have fun over there.

42 posted on 04/21/2004 6:52:41 AM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: B Knotts; broadsword; sandyeggo; Siobhan; m4629; sinkspur
I wish they had done the same for the Western Church.

Have another cup of java; that should take some of the edge off ;-D

If you have the opportunity, I strongly urge you to attend a Maronite Catholic liturgy. No bells - lots of smells! To hear the Consecration, using the words and Aramaic language of our Lord at the Last Supper, is just awesome.

The entire mass is chanted (even the low mass). It is a dialogue between the celebrant and the congregation. The Maronites have great love for our Blessed Mother and total reverence and respect for the Holy Eucharist. The liturgy is steeped in lyrical and poetic language. Here is just one example of a Maronite prayer.

Mother of God (Wa in kana jismouki)


Mother of God, O Gentle One,
treasure of mercy and our hope.
You are our refuge and in you we place our trust.
Intercede for us, O Virgin Mary
and have compassion on our dead.


Though your body may be far from us,
Virgin Mother when you pray.
But your prayers are always with us
giving us protection and shelter.

We implore you to ask him who honoured you
when he became incarnate from you.
Ask him for us sinners, forgiveness
and his mercy for ever and ever.

You are our Mother, you are our hope
you are our glory and you are our refuge.
Be our advocate before your Son
that in his mercy, he may forgive our sins.

Do not abandon us, O Gentle Mother.
You are full of all the graces.
Pray for your children, all your children,
who give you thanks for ever and ever.

Fr Geoffrey Abdallah.

43 posted on 04/21/2004 7:00:20 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: NYer
There is a Maronite church some distance from here, but it is about as far to drive to as it is to drive to the Tridentine Indult.

But, I might go some time, just to see what it's like.

44 posted on 04/21/2004 7:04:39 AM PDT by B Knotts (Salve!)
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To: NYer
You are so blessed to be going to that wondrous event! God send you blessings in abundance there and on your journey as well.
45 posted on 04/21/2004 7:25:17 AM PDT by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: B Knotts; sandyeggo; Siobhan; sinkspur
I might go some time, just to see what it's like.

Before you go, call ahead to inquire which liturgy is in the vernacular. You should also plan to attend 3 times - the first visit can be disorienting. Here are some guidelines to help you understand what you will experience.

The Liturgy

The Maronite liturgy is one of the oldest in the Catholic Church. St. Peter and other Apostles brought the liturgy of the Last Super to Antioch where it developed in Greek and Syriac concurrently. The early Antioch liturgy is the basis of the Maronite liturgy.

The first thing you will notice is the layout of the church itself. There is a platform extending from the altar, called a bema. The early churches were former synagogues, and the bema was the raised platform on which the elders stood and read scripture. You will also notice the richness of the priestly vestments. The design of the Maronite vestments is indigenous to the Holy Land.

The priest and deacon sit at the end of the bema facing the altar rather than presiding over the congregation. The semicircular seating arrangement dates back to the two monastic choirs of the early church. it encourages the congregation to be participants in the liturgy, rather than spectators. The liturgy is throughout a dialogue between the people and the priest. The priest serves as the prayer leader in much the same way as Moses served the Israelites. The congregation stands or sits during the liturgy as the liturgy is chanted back and forth between the priest and the congregation. In Eastern Catholic Churches, kneeling is done on Pentecost, in private prayer and can be done during Confession (Reconciliation).

The Maronite liturgy begins with calling on God's mercy, whereas the Latin Rite liturgy begins with "let us call to mind our sins." We also acknowledge our sinfulness, but greater stress is laid on God's mercy. As one prayer says, "Your mercy, O Lord, is greater than the weight of the mountains..."

The Triasagion (Qadeeshat Alaho) is the first prayer that is sung in Aramaic, and it is sung three times in honor of the Holy Trinity. It is normally sung facing East.

The sign of peace is also different from the Latin Rite. The priest kisses the altar, places his hands on the chalice, then passes God's peace to the deacon, who then gives it to the acolyte, who passes it to the first person in the pews, who passes it to the next person, an so on. Very rich indeed!

The Consecration is sung in Aramaic, the everyday language of our Lord, the Blessed Mother, and the Apostles. It is the closest we come to the Lord's actual words at the Last Supper.

Throughout the liturgy, the priest will bless the congregation using the handcross, the Gospel, and the Eucharist itself, both before and after Communion. Holy Communion is given only by intinction. There is no Communion in the hand and there are no Eucharistic ministers. Only the bishop, the priest, the deacon or the subdeacon give communion. It is done with the words, "The servant of God ... receives the Body and Blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life."

The Maronite rite has over eighty Eucharistic Prayers, called Anaphorae. Most were composed by different saints, including St. James (the oldest prayer), the Apostles, St. Peter, St. Sixtus and St. Basil. The prayers throughout the liturgy are full of Biblical Imagery. The story of salvation is told over and over again, and each liturgy is a short course in theology, using spiritual poetry to give praise, honor and thanksgiving for God's mercy and forgiveness, and His constant love for us not matter what!

46 posted on 04/21/2004 7:43:09 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: Siobhan; sandyeggo
You are so blessed to be going to that wondrous event! God send you blessings in abundance there and on your journey as well.

Please remember Bishop-elect Mansour in your prayers, along with all the bishops and priests, and those discerning the priesthood.

POPE JOHN PAUL II APPOINTS RECTOR OF ST. RAYMOND MARONITE CATHEDRAL BISHOP OF THE EPARCHY OF SAINT MARON OF BROOKLYN

St. Louis--Pope John Paul II has announced this morning at 6 a.m. CST (noon in Rome) that Chorbishop Gregory J. Mansour, Vicar General and Chancellor of the Eparchy of Our Lady of Lebanon, and Rector of St. Raymond Maronite Cathedral in St. Louis has been appointed the third Bishop of the Eparchy of St. Maron of Brooklyn, following Bishop Stephen Hector Doueihi. The announcement was made simultaneously in Rome, Lebanon and Brooklyn at noon Rome time. A press conference will be held at 10:00a.m. Sat. January 10, 2004 at St. Raymond Cathedral.

The appointment is a result of the nomination of Bishop-elect Gregory J. Mansour by the Maronite Patriarch Mar Nasrallah Peter Cardinal Sfeir and the Synod of Maronite Bishops in Bkerke, Lebanon.

Bishop-elect Gregory J. Mansour will be ordained March 2, 2004, the Feast of St. John Maron, at the Patriarchal Headquarters of the Maronite Church in Bkerke, Lebanon by his Eminence and Beatitude Mar Nasrallah Peter Cardinal Sfeir. The Installation in the presence of the Apostolic Nuncio Archbishop Gabriel Montalvo will be held April 27, 2004 at Our Lady of Lebanon Cathedral, Brooklyn, NY.


A LETTER FROM THE BISHOP-ELECT TO THE PARISHIONERS AND FRIENDS OF ST. RAYMONDS

January 10, 2004

Dear Parishioners and Friends of St Raymond Cathedral,

As you know, from the first day I came to St Louis I felt it a privilege and honor to serve you. I sought to build upon the solid foundation of your pastor, Bishop Shaheen and upon the priests that served along with him and before him.

You have, by now, heard the many rumors, now I must confirm that I have been nominated as third Bishop of the Eparchy of St. Maron of Brooklyn. The Holy Father, our beloved Patriarch, and his Synod of Bishops have humbled me with this confidence, which they have placed in my hands.

The only problem with this great honor, and with assuming this apostolic responsibility, is that I must leave St Raymond, the Eparchy of Our Lady of Lebanon, her bishops, priests, and faithful, whom I have come to love so much.

I do not know when this will all take place, perhaps in March, but I want to say a special word of thanks to Sayedna Robert Shaheen, for being a true older brother in Christ to me. Likewise to Fr Andre who has, and will have, to bear much more responsibility because of this change, to Fr Swift, our beloved brother and friend, and to you, the fine parishioners of St Raymond for all the love you have shown me over these past few years.

A priest never knows where he will be called upon by the Lord to serve. I consider it my good fortune and blessing to have been asked by Bishop Shaheen to serve you. Please keep me in your prayers, as I will for you.

Yours in Christ,

Chorbishop Gregory J. Mansour

Rector



Saint Raymond Maronite Cathedral’s Pastor for the second time becomes Bishop

The true glory of Saint Raymond: The Little Flock that gave America two True Shepherds.

When rumors went out trying to guess who the next bishop of the Eparchy (Diocese) of Saint Maron– Brooklyn is going to be, after Bishop Stephen Hector Doueihi, the second Bishop of that Diocese, resigned as he reached the canonical age (75), according to the Canon Law of the Eastern Churches, many people found it strange that the Patriarch in Lebanon would name another, or a “second Maronite American-born” Bishop. Moreover due to his young age Chorbishop Gregory Mansour was really “out of the picture” for such a nomination.

Now things have happened. Although almost everybody was caught off guard with the nomination, Bishop Shaheen had a deep inspiration that Abouna Gregory one day is going to be a Bishop. As the famous saying exclaims: “watch for what you wish for!” Sayedna Bob got his wish…We all got our wish… and Abouna Gregory who definitely enjoyed being Rector at Saint Raymond didn’t know that he was dealing with a “LOOK LIKE BISHOP AND BE”_PARISH, not at least when we woke him up two weeks ago and told him: “The Patriarch is on the phone!”

I personally don’t know whether or not I should be happy that my second Pastor in a row has become Bishop. The reason for that is because I love both of them: One remained here with us before and after, and now, the other one will remain for ever in my heart and I’m sure in yours too a living example of a humble and caring Christ for ever.

Today our joy is complete: the true glory of Saint Raymond is that the little flock, which at one time dwelled in a four-family flat, and made it into a church, now gave this great country of the United States two true shepherds. It is our destiny at Saint Raymond to share the love of God we experience in our shepherds with the entire Maronite Church not only in America but in the world.

God is telling us something... : “You have been given the Kingdom of God. Be fruitful and yield a rich harvest… You who were found faithful with small matters, now I place you in charge of great.” All for the unity of the Maronite Church, and the upbuilding of “Beit Maroon”. So let us rejoice and in one voice praise God for His wondrous work in this New year, and in His Bishop-Elect.

 

Abouna Andre Mhanna
Associate Rector. January 10th, 2004

47 posted on 04/21/2004 8:23:22 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: ninenot
Another "poetry" whine and an "autoviography" one as well from BS, edging ever closer to frank admission of schismatic rhetorical flourishes.
48 posted on 04/21/2004 10:13:51 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: ninenot
So few words, so big a hurry.

"autoviography" = "autobiography"

49 posted on 04/21/2004 10:15:25 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
I noticed that immediately.

BrSw is not "edging." He's there--also note the "zillions of souls are lost/Rome burns" line.

Only the tiniest margin of doubt remains, and that's because I am just a bit charitable.
50 posted on 04/21/2004 11:54:28 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: sinkspur
"Paul Weyrich had to apply to Rome when he switched from the Latin Rite to the Eastern Rite; things may have changed."

While it is now quite easy for laity to "switch" rites, it is still a nightmare for clergy to do so - or to gain bi-ritual faculties for that matter.

A friend of mine waited 7 years for permission to change rites in order to be ordained in an Eastern Catholic Church!

P.S. If you are still interested in the priesthood as a married man, this is one option that is open to you - you might need to learn Arabic though!

;)

51 posted on 04/21/2004 4:28:35 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: Antoninus; NYer; Salvation; Siobhan; Land of the Irish; m4629; Loyalist; B Knotts; MindFire; ...
A suggestion about what could be done, often and frequently, until Hubbard resigns:

Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception


52 posted on 04/26/2004 11:18:21 AM PDT by Phx_RC (You Too can replace your bad bishop-- with constant continuous Prayerful Public Protests)
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