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RCF Returns to Albany Diocese

Posted on 04/20/2004 5:44:17 PM PDT by Antoninus

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To: sinkspur
Why not go to Mass at a Catholic parish in the city somewhere?

Wild speculation: Hubbard ordered his priests not to let Brady into their parishes, under threat of suspension.

21 posted on 04/20/2004 10:32:56 PM PDT by Loyalist (Svend Robinson: Now starring in The Felonship Of The Ring!)
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To: Loyalist
Why has Hubbard not been removed by that wonderful champion of orthodoxy and Catholic integrity, Pope John Paul II?
22 posted on 04/20/2004 10:35:15 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: m4629
If he didn't ask, then he'll have to pass the hat before the end of his nest-stirring.

But, he'll no doubt whip all the attendees into such a frenzy that they'll likely cover his and Likoudis' airfare, in the process.

23 posted on 04/20/2004 10:36:58 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: Loyalist
Wild speculation: Hubbard ordered his priests not to let Brady into their parishes, under threat of suspension.

So, who's offering the Mass? If he's from outside the diocese, he should, according to Canon Law, seek faculties to offer Mass.

I'll bet he don't.

24 posted on 04/20/2004 10:39:23 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur; m4629
*Are they dragging a priest in from some other diocese to celebrate Mass? Does he have faculties?*

Give it a break, Sinky! You don't live here and have no concept of what life in this diocese is like. You are absolutely clueless!.

25 posted on 04/20/2004 10:47:56 PM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: sinkspur; Loyalist; m4629
*So, who's offering the Mass? If he's from outside the diocese*

There are orthodox priests in the Albany Diocese. It's doubtful they would drag someone in from outside. Rather than speculate on this tonight, you can wait until morning when I will be able to get some clarification, from the source.

26 posted on 04/20/2004 10:51:19 PM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
*Why has Hubbard not been removed by that wonderful champion of orthodoxy and Catholic integrity, Pope John Paul II?*

On what grounds? Hubbard is being protected. He has not been found guilty of anthing. Ultra liberalism is not grounds for replacement.

27 posted on 04/20/2004 10:54:10 PM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: NYer
Whoa, momma! You be pissed off!!!

Carry on.

28 posted on 04/20/2004 10:54:43 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur; NYer
Sinky, whatever the cost, it will be much less painful than the $770 an hour Hubbard is spending on Whitewash with no input from the people in Albany.

Speaking of such, the meter is now at $600,000 and ticking. Goldfarb mentioned just last week Whitewash still has a long way to go. Happy spending.

You seem to be overly concerned with Steve. Don't worry, he has a good reputation and track record, far exceeds that of Hubbard.
29 posted on 04/20/2004 10:54:49 PM PDT by m4629
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To: m4629
*Speaking of such, the meter is now at $600,000 and ticking. Goldfarb mentioned just last week Whitewash still has a long way to go. Happy spending. *

Not on my dime! The Eparchy has its own bishop. I have been invited to attend his Enthronement next week in Brooklyn. Bishop Gregory Mansour is the 2nd American born bishop to be appointed by the Vatican to lead a Maronite Eparchy. The Papal Nuncio will be there, along with representatives from many of the other Eastern Catholic churches. Priests from all of the parishes in the Brooklyn Eparchy will be assisting at the liturgy. Some, like our pastor, have invited members of their congregation to celebrate this major event.

30 posted on 04/20/2004 11:02:01 PM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: NYer
Have you sought permission from Rome to switch Rites?
31 posted on 04/20/2004 11:09:30 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: NYer
Congratulations. I am very happy for you.
32 posted on 04/20/2004 11:12:55 PM PDT by m4629
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To: m4629
If Elks are Masons, that's news to me.
33 posted on 04/21/2004 12:04:48 AM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Why has Hubbard not been removed by that wonderful champion of orthodoxy and Catholic integrity, Pope John Paul II?

Hey! Give the man a break. He has poetry and autobiography to write (and he is really good at it, too). So what, if 70% of the laity is led astray and thousands of little lambs are devoured by clerical wolves? Get your priorities straight!
34 posted on 04/21/2004 12:10:47 AM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: sinkspur; NYer
Have you sought permission from Rome to switch Rites?

NYer's Mass IS a valid rite of the Church. Your question is nonsense. The more I read from you, the more clear it becomes that you are a new-age, modernist, liberal of the most destructive sort, and your vociferous CLAIM of being a deacon becomes more and more suspect.
35 posted on 04/21/2004 12:14:13 AM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: NYer
NY, did you post a report on a previous RCF event? if so, i'd love to read it. Brady is a very good man. thanks!
36 posted on 04/21/2004 1:56:10 AM PDT by MindFire
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To: sinkspur; NYer
After all of the new-age nonsense, liberalism and every other garbage you've supported, excused and defended you have the nerve to make an issue out of where a mass in Albany is attended and whether NYer "sought permission from Rome" to attend her masses. Meanwhile you still inexplicably defend this Hubbard creature.

Are you on a mission to make a fool out of yourself? If so you're having great success.

I don't believe a wayward "deacon" who goes to yoga classes to ogle women has any business judging the actions of dedicated Catholics.

37 posted on 04/21/2004 4:45:06 AM PDT by AAABEST (<a href="http://www.angelqueen.org">Traditional Catholicism is Back and Growing</a>)
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To: sinkspur; m4629; sandyeggo; Siobhan; Salvation
*Have you sought permission from Rome to switch Rites?*

ROFL!!! You really need to do some homework, Sinky!

A Roman rite Catholic may attend any Eastern Catholic Liturgy and fulfill his of her obligations at any Eastern Catholic Parish. A Roman rite Catholic may join any Eastern Catholic Parish and receive any sacrament from an Eastern Catholic priest, since all belong to the Catholic Church as a whole.

The Holy Father encourages Roman rite Catholics to visit the Eastern Catholic churches, although Eastern Catholics are discouraged from going to Roman rite parishes, as it is the will of Rome that Eastern Catholics retain the rich heritage and support their own parishes. Vatican II even went so far as to say that if any Eastern Catholics have fallen away from the Eastern rite out of time or neglect, they should take pains to return to their heritage. Eastern Catholics who attend a Roman rite parish because there is no Eastern parish for them to attend still remain Eastern Catholics of their own particular rite.

The Vatican II Council declared that "all should realize it is of supreme importance to understand, venerate, preserve, and foster the exceedingly rich liturgical and spiritual heritage of the Eastern churches, in order faithfully to preserve the fullness of Christian tradition" (Unitatis Redintegrato, 15). Pope John Paul II said that "the Catholic Church is both Eastern and Western."

"The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" -- Pope John XXIII

In fact, Sinky, you may want to take the Holy Father up on his invitation! ( Our Lady's Maronite Catholic Church - Austin, TX ). Oh, wait ... no, this is definitely NOT for you. Communion is by intinction and ONLY the priest may touch the consecrated hosts. The role of the Deacon is relegated to reading from the Lectionary. How's your enunciation?

I am a Roman Catholic, enrolled in a Maronite Catholic parish. However, should I so decide, I may permanently switch Rites. No application to Rome is necessary. There is a form to be completed, whereby the individual applies to the Bishop of the Eparchy. For now, I have no plans to formally switch.

38 posted on 04/21/2004 6:18:48 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: sinkspur
Do you reckon RCF would be offered any Church facilities in that diocese?

I suspect not.

39 posted on 04/21/2004 6:23:36 AM PDT by B Knotts (Salve!)
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To: NYer
The Vatican II Council declared that "all should realize it is of supreme importance to understand, venerate, preserve, and foster the exceedingly rich liturgical and spiritual heritage of the Eastern churches

I wish they had done the same for the Western Church. </crabby>

40 posted on 04/21/2004 6:30:33 AM PDT by B Knotts (Salve!)
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