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I knew Fr. Charles Murr, both in St. Francis De Sales, and in his previous parish, Our Lady of Guadaloupe. He was a real priest, truly devoted to the faith, to the Eucharist, and to preaching all of the truths of the faith in a very clear, unvarnished manner. He inhereited a horrible situation when he took of SFDS in the fall of 2002. The previous pastor, Fr. Robert Lott (deceased) was a liberal priest, had ruined the parish financially, and had a scandalous living arrangement in his residence. Only death prevented him from being named as one of the priests in the clergy scandal list! Fr. Murr set about to see to the proper Catholic education of the children, provide valid repectful masses, exposition of the blessed sacrament, etc. He only allowed altar boys (no girls), no eucharistic ministers. In short, real traditional Catholicism within the structure of a diocesan parish. That was his mistake! Th Archdiocese of NY is run by a collection of so called priests who have no faith, and are definately anti-papal, though they cloak themselves in respectability. They are are also riddled with gay priests. So a man like Fr. Murr is seen as the enemy to them. He was set up to fail - from the beginning! So now he is gone, and a liberal will probably get the parish, and undo all the good he did, just as at Our Lady of Guadaloupe. Cardinal Egan is not a conservative, and is not really a true believer. He is a ruthless beaurocrat, who does not care about the laity, and does not really support good, conservative priests. He is also hell-bent on a program to close half of the parishes in Manhattan - most of them truly beautiful and historic churches - and sell the property to pay off court settlements, and give the remainder to the liberal upstate pastors. I wish I knew where Fr. Murr went so I could send him my sympathies!