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To: gbcdoj; Canticle_of_Deborah
The Holy Sacrament of the altar has not been abolished.

"The Holy Fathers who have written upon the subject of Antichrist, and the prophecies of Daniel, without a single exception, as far as I know -- and they are the Fathers both of the East and of the West, the Greek and the Latin Church --, all of them unanimously say that in the latter end of the world, during the reign of the Antichrist, the Holy Sacrifice of the Altar will cease...." Then the Church shall be scattered, driven into the wilderness, and shall be for a time, as it were in the beginning, invisible, hidden in catacombs, in dens, in mountains, in lurking places; for a time it shall be swept, as it were, from the face of the earth. Such is the unanimous testimony of the Fathers of the early centuries."

--Henry Edward Cardinal Manning (1808-1892), The Present Crisis of the Holy See (1861)

Those who celebrate the TRUE SACRIFICE AND also hold fast to the TRUE FAITH are the TRUE CHURCH.

NO OTHERS.

Wojtyla's Clown Mass, St, Peter's Square, November 17, 2002

99 posted on 04/05/2004 2:55:57 PM PDT by Viva Christo Rey
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To: Viva Christo Rey
...all of them unanimously say that in the latter end of the world, during the reign of the Antichrist, the Holy Sacrifice of the Altar will cease...

It has not ceased. Even you admit this, saying "Those who celebrate the TRUE SACRIFICE".

Those who celebrate the TRUE SACRIFICE AND also hold fast to the TRUE FAITH are the TRUE CHURCH.

40. But we must not think that He rules only in a hidden [59] or extraordinary manner. On the contrary, our Redeemer also governs His Mystical Body in a visible and normal way through His Vicar on earth. You know, Venerable Brethren, that after He had ruled the "little flock" [60] Himself during His mortal pilgrimage, Christ our Lord, when about to leave this world and return to the Father, entrusted to the Chief of the Apostles the visible government of the entire community He had founded. Since He was all wise He could not leave the body of the Church He had founded as a human society without a visible head...

41. They, therefore, walk in the path of dangerous error who believe that they can accept Christ as the Head of the Church, while not adhering loyally to His Vicar on earth. They have taken away the visible head, broken the visible bonds of unity and left the Mystical Body of the Redeemer so obscured and so maimed, that those who are seeking the haven of eternal salvation can neither see it nor find it. (Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi)

But, the society structured with hierarchical organs and the Mystical Body of Christ, are not to be considered as two realities, nor are the visible assembly and the spiritual community, nor the earthly Church and the Church enriched with heavenly things; rather they form one complex reality which coalesces from a divine and a human element.

This is the one Church of Christ which in the Creed is professed as one, holy, catholic and apostolic, (12*) which our Saviour, after His Resurrection, commissioned Peter to shepherd,(74) and him and the other apostles to extend and direct with authority,(75) which He erected for all ages as "the pillar and mainstay of the truth".(76) This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(Lumen Gentium §8)

The Church is a "society structured with hierarchical organs". Where is the Church, if the Successor of Peter and all the Catholic bishops of the world have fallen into heresy? Your Church sounds like a Protestant Church:

II. The visible Church, which is also catholic or universal under the Gospel (not confined to one nation, as before under the law), consists of all those throughout the world that profess the true religion;[2] and of their children:[3] and is the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ,[4] the house and family of God,[5] out of which there is no ordinary possibility of salvation. (Westminster Confession of Faith Ch. XXV)

Not a Catholic one!

100 posted on 04/05/2004 4:09:43 PM PDT by gbcdoj
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