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To: St.Chuck; nika
I do not exaggerate. Here is what one of the greatest liturgists of the twentieth century, Klaus Gamber, has said regarding this liturgical break with tradition:

"There has never actually been a break with Church tradition, as has happened now, and in such a frightening way." He goes on to say, "We can only hope and pray that the Roman Church will return to Tradition and allow once more the celebration of that liturgy of the Mass which is well over a 1000 years old." And he adds, "Since there is no document that specifically assigns to the Apostolic See the authority to change, let alone to abolish the traditional liturgical rite; and since, furthermore, it can be shown that not a single predecessor of Paul VI ever introduced major changes to the Roman liturgy, the assertion that the Holy See has the authority to change the liturgical rite would appear to be debatable, to say the least." (Gamber, The Reform of the Roman Liturgy, pp. 109, 39.)

Here is how Cardinal Ratzinger has put it: "In the place of a liturgy as the fruit of development came fabricated liturgy. We abandoned the organic, living process of growth and development over centuries, and replaced it--as in a manufacturing process--with a fabrication, a banal on-the-spot product." (Ratzinger, Preface to Gamber's text.)

Here is the citation from Pius XII which I mistakenly attributed to Mediator Dei. It was from another source, but relevant here:

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I am alarmed by the secrets of the Virgin Mary to little Lucy at Fatima. This persistency of the Good Lady in the face of danger menacing the Church is a divine warning against the suicide that would arise from an alteration of the faith, in its liturgy, in its theology, and in its soul…

I hear around me innovators who would like to dismantle the Sacred Chapel, to destroy the universal flame of the Church, to throw out its adornments, to make it regret its past history.

Alas, my dear friend, I am convinced that the Church of Peter must accept its past or it will dig its own grave.

… a day will come when the civilised world will deny his God, when the Church will doubt as Peter doubted. She will be tempted to believe that man has become God, that His Son is nothing but a symbol, one philosophy among many others, and in the churches the Christians will look in vain for the red lamp where God awaits them.” (Mgr. Roche and P. Saint Germain, Pius XII regarding history, pp. 52-53)

30 posted on 04/04/2004 5:32:11 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
Here is how Cardinal Ratzinger has put it: "In the place of a liturgy as the fruit of development came fabricated liturgy. We abandoned the organic, living process of growth and development over centuries, and replaced it--as in a manufacturing process--with a fabrication, a banal on-the-spot product." (Ratzinger, Preface to Gamber's text.)

I do not know the if the cardinal's statement is explaining the thoughts of Klaus Gamber, or his own, but needless to say, Cardinal Ratzinger apparently doesn't have a problem with the N.O. mass, because that is mass he says.

31 posted on 04/04/2004 5:40:02 AM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: ultima ratio
I do not exaggerate. Here is what one of the greatest liturgists of the twentieth century, Klaus Gamber, has said regarding this liturgical break with tradition:

What makes a litugist great? That his thoughts might support yours?

The statement of yours that the new mass was created "whole-cloth" is not supported either by Klaus Gamber or Cardinal Ratzinger. "Whole-cloth" would be something entirely new, containing nothing resembling the old. It doesn't take a genius to recognize the similarities.

42 posted on 04/04/2004 11:34:45 AM PDT by St.Chuck
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