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To: Unam Sanctam
"As usual you display your schismatic views for all to see, using the term "Novus Ordo Church" to refer to the Catholic Church, and actively promoting schism (this is far beyond quietly going to a Tridentine mass) by encouraging others in disobedience to an orthodox Pope, and saying that the Holy See is leading people to heterodoxy."


1. Is this not a self-proclaimed New Order? Has it anything much to do with the ancient Catholic Church? I don't think so. It has invented a new Mass. It invents new sacramental prayers. It invents new doctrines. It is negligent of the deposit of faith and is slipshod about catechesis. The New Order trashes Tradition, whereas the historical Catholic Church fiercely protected it. I am not imagining any of this. Two thirds of all Catholics--especially among the young--no longer believe in the Real Presence. This is a catastrophic statistic, yet the Novus Ordo Church is not much bothered by it. It does nothing to discourage this erosion, but continues to institute practices which further undermine this distinctly Catholic dogma. This is truly a radical way of leading the faithful--by showing an unprecedented carelessness about the truths of faith. It is revolutionary and blameworthy and unacceptable. It is not truly Catholic.

2. Remember, it was St. Paul who warned us to stick with tradition. We were not even to follow an angel come down from heaven if he seduced the faithful with a new Gospel. Only the ancient faith transmits the fullness of apostolic truth. So the real problem remains with this strangely eccentric pontiff. We must indeed give him every benefit of a doubt and recognize his authority in most situations. But when he veers far from a traditional path, we should never follow him. If he were altogether orthodox as you insist, there would be no problem. But he manifestly isn't. If he prays with animists, should we do likewise--out of charity--and thereby deny the truthfulness of faith in Christ? I don't think so--not if we take the sin of indifferentism seriously. So it goes with much of what he does and says. We should reject such heterodoxy and follow tradition!

3. The Holy See--which is another term for the Vatican apparatus--is no longer fully Catholic. That is a fact, not something I make up. This bureaucracy--which had once been identified with the Catholic Church per se--no longer is fully Catholic. That is to say, it is now comprised in part of men who no longer have the true Catholic faith. Some are disguised Lutherans. Some are humanists with no religion at all. Some are true Catholics. The problem for the faithful is that it is no longer possible to trust such a failed institution. Tradition alone can preserve the faith in the present situation.
16 posted on 04/03/2004 6:24:59 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
It invents new doctrines.

I've missed the new doctrine. What is it? The only new doctrine I've become aware of in recent years is YOPIOT.

27 posted on 04/04/2004 5:22:25 AM PDT by St.Chuck
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