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To: Romulus; jude24; drstevej
Well, you've managed to pull it off, Romie. For all the fine talk about about Roman Catholic "unity" and Protestant "dissension" -- you alone amongst the Roman Catholic Caucus have managed to create a situation in which some of the Calvinist Caucus are fervently disputing your argument as the foulest Blasphemy, and other Calvinists are affirming it as a Valid and important recognization of the Reality of the Incarnation.

Frankly, we Calvinists don't even disagree this much on Baptism ("Okay, y'all there wanna dunk adults while we here want to sprinkle infants... but we're all 100% agreed that, contra Rome, Baptism does Not Regenerate, right? Alright, so we have disagreements as to the Mode and Practice, but we're all theologically agreed on where Rome has it wrong") or Eschatology ("Pre-Mills, A-Mills, and Post-Mills, oh my! Look, we all agree that God is in Control and it will all "pan out" to His Glory in the end, so we're all PAN-Millennialists anyway, right?").... but you, alone among the Free Republic Romans, have managed to create real disagreement amongst the supposedly "schismatic" and "sectarian" Calvinists.


Speaking for myself, I tend to agree with Jude24. "Having a naked Christ on a crucifix in no way insults Christ, but reminds us of the degredation his creation heaped upon him. We need to be reminded of what, precisely, a crucifixion entails." We are, I think, compelled to admit that no manner in which Christ chose to display Himself (and as you correctly say, He did so choose) can ever be called "blasphemous"; for Christ, in howsoever He presented Himself, was ipso facto never Blasphemous. And I think that you are right that in His humble presentation of Himself, His "humiliation", He did "image" for us the total and unreserved gift of self which was His Incarnation and particularly His Atonement -- and which is properly reflected in Marriage.

But on first viewing (and this is the first time I've seen the Michelangelo; not from your post, but it's the immediately-third image one sees on a Google image-search of "crucifix"), it is an arresting, disturbing Image -- because you're right, it is a pretty intense Reality to contemplate.

I'm reminded of a Spectator article on Holbein's "Dead Christ in the Tomb", and Dostoevsky's response thereto....


123 posted on 03/29/2004 5:44:27 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
That might be one of the most awful paintings I have ever seen.

But it was awful in a good way; it made me consider what it meant for Deity to die. (Although I thought that Christ didn't see corruption. The spices would have kept his body okay for three days).

125 posted on 03/29/2004 9:09:37 PM PST by jude24 (Explore the meaning behind THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST -- www.thelife.com)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Amazing once again. The picture is humbling as much as the Passion was for me.
126 posted on 03/29/2004 9:17:18 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
you alone amongst the Roman Catholic Caucus have managed to create a situation...

Then all my work will not have been in vain. ;-)

OK, no more kidding. It's the last days of Lent, and I'm really glad we're all contemplating this stuff. Blessings to you too.

130 posted on 03/30/2004 6:55:13 AM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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