It May Not Be Realized Yet

San Francisco Faith ^ | STEPHEN FRANKINI

[Viva Christo Rey]

These "Irish" prelates really make me proud of my ancestry.

Yes, but we all know that it is the Modernist "anti-Jesuits" that it's REALLY hard to live down!

;-)

[Romulus]

Because it more fully conveys the scriptural truth and theological mystery of the crucifixion. It would have been so cool if Mel had found himself capable of this. Maybe people in general are simply incapable of bearing that much truth all at once. That's their misfortune.

[Land of the Irish]

We can't afford original Michelangelos.

Step across Canal Street, three blocks away, and into the French Quarter. I'm sure you'll find a street artist willing to give you whatever you desire, for a very affordable price. Then donate it to St. Patrick's.

I will be anxiously looking for your donation, when I return to New Orleans.

[Viva Christo Rey]

Because it more fully conveys the scriptural truth and theological mystery of the crucifixion.

Theological mystery???

Who are you kidding!!?

[sinkspur]

Christ was crucified naked. That is the reality.

I agree with your sentiments here. The theological reality should not be obscured.

[Romulus]

Please spare yourself the indifferentist argument that all human nakedness is pornographic, lest you make our crucified Lord a an obscene exhibitionist. Instead, do me and yourself the honor of a thoughtful response worthy of this deadly serious topic, if you can.

I'll be happy to see you next time you come to St. Patrick's. Perhaps you'll sit in on one of the Advanced Discussion groups I moderate every month, the most recent of which included a display of the same image you find so scandalous. I'm pleased to say it provoked an intelligent and reverent response that might prove enlightening to you.

Here's a little something to leave you with. Cover your eyes!

[pbear8]

Does Bishop Vigneron get the San Francisco Faith delivered to his door?

Don't know, only met him once at the funeral of my retired pastor. I'm sure someone has sent this to him by now.

[Land of the Irish]

How low will they make Him go?

[Romulus]

I'm not kidding. The crucifixion is a deeply theological event. It's precisely Christ's complete gift of self in the crucifixion that makes the nuptial gift of self meaningful at all.

[Aliska]

Christ was crucified naked. That is the reality.

Didn't John cover his nakedness? I can't find the verse.

[Romulus]

I agree with your sentiments here. The theological reality should not be obscured.

Thank you. I look forward to your discernment from this to an understanding that marital contraception is wrong precisely because it proposes a lie about the way marriage images Christ's unreserved gift of self to his Spouse.

[Romulus]

Me neither.

[Aliska]

I'm with you on those crucifixes. I read that the twisted crucifix was a medieval witchcraft symbol. I don't know if that is true, probably not, but there was a book written by a traditionalist about it that is hard to find that I got from the library on inter-library loan. Wish I could remember the author but I can't at the moment.

[Romulus]

Having been declined the courtesy of a response, be advised that I intend to re-post the image you deleted, unless you restore it first.

[Land of the Irish]

Please spare yourself the indifferentist argument that all human nakedness is pornographic

Why don't you post pictures of the naked Blessed Virgin or a naked St. Joseph and call it holy?

[Viva Christo Rey]

Wish I could remember the author but I can't at the moment.

Was it by the Abbe' Roux or Leroux - I can't quite remember either but the staff/crucifix was supposed to be a mockery and a symbol of the antichrist.

[Aliska]

Well, you can get your naked Jesus calendar here (an apologetic website for a naked Jesus here

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

The downward facing crosses are disturbing. Heaven is upward, and the downward positioning is not victorious. Christ is conquering hell, not bowing or succumbing to it.

I see other disturbing theological interpretations which I won't share.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

a mockery and a symbol of the antichrist.

We're on the same page.

[Land of the Irish]

be advised that I intend to re-post the image you deleted, unless you restore it first.

Then be advised that I will ask, again, that it be removed. Name me one Catholic Basilica that displays a crucifix of a naked Jesus.