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It May Not Be Realized Yet
San Francisco Faith ^ | STEPHEN FRANKINI

Posted on 03/26/2004 6:47:24 PM PST by Land of the Irish

Helen (a pseudonym) describes herself as devoutly Catholic. She attends St. Anne's Parish Community in Discovery Bay in the diocese of Oakland. Most parishioners there, she says, are excited about the changes in the parish made by their pastor, Father Ron Schmit -- who is also chairman of the art and design committee (formerly referred to as the liturgy committee) for the new Oakland cathedral.

Helen, though, told me a few of the things that bothered her about the parish. For one thing, she said, Father Schmit is very proud that he will be acquiring for the parish a crucifix with a fully naked Jesus. (Another parishioner I talked to joked that perhaps this was Father's way of teaching the pope's Theology of the Body). Another thing that angered Helen happened at Christmas Eve Mass, when two girls, between the ages of ten and twelve, pretending to be Joseph and Mary, danced at Mass to a song with the words, "would you pick some grapes from the tree." Their dresses, Helen said, had slits that went up to the waist.

According to Helen, St Anne's sometimes uses leavened bread for its hosts. "It rose and was sweeter than it should be," she said. "My mother called the rectory, and they insist it's unleavened. They got the recipe off the internet."

Helen is not alone in her confusion about what is happening at her church.

Joyce Davis lived in Discovery Bay for six years, up until 2002, and was a parishioner of St. Anne's. She told me that the pastoral associate, Gail McGuire, reads the Gospel once a month at the Children's Mass and delivers the homily. Davis said she received a letter from Father Schmit in which he said that the reason McGuire does this is that she is "good with children" -- even though the children troop out of the church for the Liturgy of the Word. Once McGuire, said Davis, conducted a Eucharistic service (no Mass) and instructed everyone to bring his chair closer to the altar, thus forming a circle. "Everyone took their own Jesus from the ciborium. I couldn't do it," said Davis. "The Eucharist is something given, not taken."

Joyce also informed me that Father Schmit "pulled the kneelers, and pews out of the church, and had a garage sale." She also said Father Ron wrote in the Contra Costa Times in support of gay marriages. In the March 12, 2000 edition of the Contra Costa Times, Father Ron is quoted as being "saddened" that the bishops supported Proposition 22 banning gay marriages in California. He argued that divorce is also condemned in the Bible, but no one is clamoring to make divorce illegal.

According to Joyce, Father Schmit once said, "the Bible is just a bunch of stories." She said he often uses the term "Spirit of Vatican II" to justify his actions. Furthermore, as if Catholic moral teaching were simply suggestions, she claimed Schmit said, "in a perfect world, we could all follow the catechism".

In early February, Schmit delivered a controversial sermon regarding the nature of the parish as well as the priesthood. At the request of parishioners, within the bulletin he distributed a flier that lists the source material he used for his sermon, which Helen faxed to me. Among his sources was a book written by William J. Bausch, called The Parish of the Next Millenium. According to Helen, Schmit recommends this book to those interested in getting involved with ministry.

Schmit's handout includes the following quotations from Bausch's book: "The parish of the Christian millenium will be lay oriented, with shared and collaborative ministry." "It will be grounded not so much in ordination and office as in baptism and charism, wherein the baptismal call to discipleship binds believers in a common mission, and leadership, conferred with broader input, is respectful of others' gifts and ministries." "It will complete the process of moving from a pyramid to a koinonia (communion) church, with a better balance between male and female spiritualities and influence, greater female representation in decision making; there will be married priests and communion with one another across the earth, those gone before and those to come after." "It will stress the wisdom tradition rather than the intellectual, retrieve the mystical and return to a more holistic spirituality." "It will see a new priesthood within and among the people, a common communion in ministry." "It will move closer to a male-female partnership, a real balance of male-female cooperation and ministry."

After these quotations, the handout has these comments from Father Schmit: "Although these predictions by Fr. Bausch may not be realized as of yet, or as quickly as one might hope, nevertheless they should inspire and move all who minister for Jesus in the daily grind that is our human existence."

According to Helen, Father Schmit's teachings are very well received because, as she put it, many in the parish want to "get away from the authoritarian church" and have "lay people making decisions."

Another handout contained a "psalm," titled, "Do This in Memory of Me," from a book, Psalms for Zero Gravity by Edward Hays (Forest of Peace Publishing). The psalm begins: "Beloved Jesus, Lord of the Meal, I rejoice that a mother and a father, laboring for their family, begin and end each day's work saying, 'This is my body, this is my blood.' An adult child nursing a sick elderly parent with compassion and patient care says 'This is my body, this is my blood.'" The "psalm" then lists a preacher, a singer "forgetting self and the audience, making love out of the music," an artist, teacher, dancer, doctor, auto mechanic, office worker -- and all in their work say, "This is my body, this is my blood." In the last verse of the psalm, we learn that "ten thousand thousand consecrations occur daily, as all heaven's angels chime in, 'Holy, holy, holy,' to the thunderous praise of a thousand silent, silver bells. Listen. Listen."

Father Schmit's handout explains the "psalm" in the following "reflection": "Some theologians as late as the twelfth century held that there was no necessary connection between the consecration of bread and wine into Christ's Body and Blood and sacramental ordination. Gary Macy, chairman of the theology department of the University of San Diego and a scholar of the medieval period, discovered that the first document making a distinction between laity and ritually ordained clergy didn't appear until the Fourth Lateran Council of 1215."

Schmit's explanation continues: "To frequently make a gift of yourself in loving compassionate service is being faithful to Jesus, keeping the memory of his gift alive and doing what he did. While his gift-words are officially restricted to the ordained clergy today, Jesus' last request on the night before he died was restricted to neither time nor place, person nor circumstance. We all are called at every moment to live out that request."

I called St Anne's several times to ask Father Schmit to comment for this article. No one returned my calls.


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To: HarleyD
If John didn't cover his nakedness, I would have.

After I got off the computer last night, I went through all four gospels and cannot find where John did that. I may have missed it, but it's stuck in my mind. I may have seen it in an older film where the producer employed a little artistic license.

I definitely cannot find it in the crucifixion accounts in the bible.

81 posted on 03/27/2004 9:16:30 AM PST by Aliska
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To: Romulus
Careful with the "my Jesus" talk. Jesus is the Truth;

I accept the truth of his unavoidable nakedness on the cross. I also accept the truth that he was usually clothed, as was everyone else in that scenario other than the two thieves. In my meditations, I prefer the clothed version. I never thought of it much otherwise other than some really nasty thoughts about Jesus induced by the devil which I had to put out of my mind. I don't want to dwell there.

82 posted on 03/27/2004 9:33:36 AM PST by Aliska
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To: HarleyD
If John didn't cover his nakedness, I would have.

You couldn't have.

I'm surprised that you don't say you would have tried to prevent the crucifixion itself. Look, it's important to get past the idea of the crucifixion as a human event that's up for grabs. You cannot judge the crucifixion of the Lord. It judges you.

83 posted on 03/27/2004 11:08:25 AM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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To: Romulus
It is absolutely WRONG to display Jesus naked on a cross. It's blasphemous-pure and simple.
84 posted on 03/27/2004 11:30:07 AM PST by HarleyD (READ Your Bible-STUDY to show yourself approved)
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To: HarleyD
How can that be if Jesus allowed himself to be thus displayed? And if Paul preaches Christ crucified?

I see that you have strong feelings on the subject, but mere assertion isn't argument. What are your reasons?
85 posted on 03/27/2004 11:44:18 AM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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To: Romulus
Gen 9:20-23 "Then Noah began farming and planted a vineyard. He drank of the wine and became drunk, and uncovered himself inside his tent. Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it upon both their shoulders and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were turned away, so that they did not see their father's nakedness."

While Shem and Japheth had respect for Noah, Ham did not.

Jesus allowed it for the sin of mankind. We don't need to shame him over and over.

86 posted on 03/27/2004 12:23:37 PM PST by HarleyD (READ Your Bible-STUDY to show yourself approved)
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To: HarleyD
A naked crucifix is disturbing, appalling It pierces us with shame and pity, and makes us want to look away. Not only because of the humiliation and powerlessness of the Crucified, but the plain display of Jesus’s malehood disturbs us profoundly. We don’t like to look at this. The key question is, WHY?

The shame in nakedness is a response to human sinfulness and humanity's disintegrated state after the Fall, in which body and soul are no longer aligned, and the soul itself is at war with itself. None of this applies to Jesus, however. Jesus being perfectly sinless has no need of clothes. His use of clothes in his earthly life was part of his willing subjection of self in all ways -- to his Father, to his parents, to the Law, just as he made himself subject to hunger and fatigue and death. The Lord used clothes is a manifestation of his humility, which, as Cardinal Newman points out, is about as far from the worldly conceit of "modesty" as you can get. The call to clothe Jesus in the artificial and unscriptural way you propose is ultimately an acknowledgment and in some sense a surrender to our sinfulness. Nakedness is a problem only for sinful people, not for the sinless.

We do not like to see Jesus humiliated, but we cannot reject his decision to reveal himself this way without rejecting the event that's central to our redemption.

Before God, we are all naked, and always have been.

87 posted on 03/27/2004 12:53:53 PM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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To: Romulus; Alex Murphy; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; ...
***Nakedness is a problem only for sinful people, not for the sinless.***

So is everybody buck naked in Heaven?

When the roll is called up yonder, I'll be Bare!

Alex, great idea for a parody here. :-)

88 posted on 03/27/2004 1:04:32 PM PST by drstevej (I don't think we are in Eden anymore, Toto.)
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To: drstevej
Everybody zeroed in on the naked crucifix, but there are other disturbing things in the posted article which I guess are pretty ho hum after all.

I suppose it is silly to get upset over funny bread.

89 posted on 03/27/2004 1:11:47 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Viva Christo Rey
"papal" audience of Wednesday, March 24, 2004

Gee, no WONDER he never has the time to say, for himself, whether or not he's seen 'that movie' and confirm/deny the comments that others have attributed to him...
< /surprise>

90 posted on 03/27/2004 1:14:38 PM PST by solitas (sometimes I lay awake at night looking up at the stars wondering where the heck did the ceiling go?)
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To: Aliska
I understand and sincerely sympathise with the spiritual warfare in which you find yourself. With all respect, I'd like to suggest that if the devil is tempting you with really nasty thoughts about the suffering of the naked Lord, it may be precisely because the devil hates the thought of anyone contemplating His Passion, and thus searches for ways to make it a stumbling block. The devil works by exploiting specific weakness in your spiritual defenses. It's the very nature of the devil to tempt you with lewd thoughts and then to accuse you of sin in entertaining those very thoughts, which you never asked for and do not want. Remember that the word "devil" comes from the Greek word for "slanderer", because he works by accusing us of our sinfulness, hoping to tempt us to despair. Do you remember the demon children in The Passion of the Christ who torment Judas with accusations of being under a curse? That's how the devil seeks to drive man to despair and death.

Go back to Genesis, where the Lord demands of Adam: "Who told you that you were naked?" The answer of course is the devil, who accuses us of our sinfulness and then tempts us to hide from God because of fear -- as if hiding from God were even possible. Recall that in Genesis it's God who even after the Fall goes looking for Man: "Where are you?" Finally, recall the message repeated at the Annunciation, the Nativity, and the Resurrection:

"Be not afraid."

91 posted on 03/27/2004 1:17:22 PM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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To: HarleyD
Jesus despised the shame of the cross. Because of that, what was once a symbol of the degredation of a condmened criminal has become one of our most sacred symbols.

Having a naked Christ on a crucifix in no way insults Christ, but reminds us of the degredation his creation heaped upon him.

We need to be reminded of what, precisely, a crucifixion entails.

I would submit that celebrating communion in sight of a crucifix like that would give a fuller meaning behind "This is my body, broken for you."

I know I can't celebrate communion blithely after seeing The Passion.

92 posted on 03/27/2004 1:18:20 PM PST by jude24 (Explore the meaning behind THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST -- www.thelife.com)
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To: drstevej
Don't be silly. Heaven's an eternal Wedding Feast. One way or another, everyone will be properly attired, albeit in ways none of us can comprehend.
93 posted on 03/27/2004 1:20:13 PM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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To: jude24
Are you becoming Catholic?

BigMack
94 posted on 03/27/2004 1:20:13 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
No. Why would you ask that?
95 posted on 03/27/2004 1:21:57 PM PST by jude24 (Explore the meaning behind THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST -- www.thelife.com)
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To: Romulus
Me be silly? You are the one who said, ***Nakedness is a problem only for sinful people, not for the sinless.***

Are there SINNERS at the eternal wedding feast? I think not. Ipso Romulo, we're all at the BUFFet in our birthday suits.
96 posted on 03/27/2004 1:23:20 PM PST by drstevej (I don't think we are in Eden anymore, Toto.)
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To: jude24
Your last post sounds just like what a Catholic would say.

BigMack
97 posted on 03/27/2004 1:24:03 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Wouldn't any Christian say the same thing?
98 posted on 03/27/2004 1:26:06 PM PST by jude24 (Explore the meaning behind THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST -- www.thelife.com)
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To: drstevej
The saints wear a wedding garment as witnesses and communicants in the Wedding Feast. Their nakedness is no longer indecent, just inadequate to the Occasion. It ain't that complicated.
99 posted on 03/27/2004 1:32:43 PM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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To: jude24
No, Christ paid the price on the cross and we can read about it in His Word and that should have a very large impact on us, He also was taken down buried and arose to life again, the gospel you know.

Thats what saves, we are saved, others need the gospel, that should be the focus.

BigMack
100 posted on 03/27/2004 1:34:01 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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