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A Hothouse Chapel in Hurricane Alley ("Ugly As Sin" At Ave Maria U.)
CruxNews.com ^ | 3/26/2004 | Michael Rose

Posted on 03/26/2004 6:36:22 AM PST by Pyro7480

A hothouse chapel in Hurricane Alley
Ave Maria University needs to return to the drawing board but quick!

This week Ave Maria University announced detailed plans for a proposed chapel on its newly-founded campus near Naples, Florida. Requiring three thousand tons of structural steel and aluminum, the 60,000-square-foot glass-skinned church is set to be the nation’s largest. Unfortunately, the design unveiled by school officials is an impractical eyesore.

Although its floor plan is vaguely reminiscent of a basilica-style church, the unsightly structure otherwise breaks with the history and tradition of Catholic church architecture while tipping its hat to some of the more avant-garde Protestant productions of recent decades. Moreover, it consciously avoids any connection to the rich Spanish mission style so common to Florida for several centuries.

Not only is it ugly, it is certain to be an embarassment to an otherwise promising Catholic institution of higher learning. Quite obviously the chapel is inconsistent with Ave Maria’s reputation for embracing authentic Catholic culture and tradition.

The proposed church is perhaps most reminiscent of Sir Joseph Paxton’s Crystal Palace, the enormous hall designed to house London’s Great Exhibition of 1851. Constructed entirely of cast iron and glass, the Palace was the largest structure to be built of prefabricated units up to that time. It is generally recognized by architectural historians as the forerunner of industrial construction that has produced many of the unseemly behemoths of the twentieth century. Paxton was a horticulturist, landscape gardener and greenhouse architect. Not coincidentally, his masterpiece resembled a giant hothouse.

Alack, the same can be said of Ave Maria’s proposed church. The 60-foot red-tinted glass cross embedded within the transparent front façade does little to reassure one that this filigree structure isn’t a conservatory full of insectivorous plants and steaming compost piles. In fact, the proposed structure should nicely suit the purpose of cultivating exotic plants out of season. After all, hothouses are designed to be, well, hot. Considering the blistering heat and humidity that characterizes the climate in southern Florida much of the year, a glass building is about as impractical as it gets—not for plants but for people. (Has no one considered the incredible impact of solar heat gain?) Add to that the fact that Ave Maria’s new campus is sprouting in Hurricane Alley, and you’ve got to wonder if this isn’t an early April Fool’s joke.

One call to the university assured me that this is no joke. It’s the real thing—and they’re moving ahead with the project come heat or hurricanes. The chapel is expected to be completed in 2006 along with much of the rest of the new campus.

Ave Maria seems to be making a fuss over the shear enormity of the proposed church. According to a March 24 press release, university officials boasted that the new chapel "will have [the] largest seating capacity of any Catholic church in the country" as well as "the largest crucifix in the world."

The largest crucifix in the world? Come now. If that doesn’t smack of megalomania, I don’t know what does. And why on earth would a small Catholic school with 122 students knocking around 1,000 acres in the remote swamplands of Florida need—or want—to accommodate a whopping 3,300 people? Why would petite Ave Maria aim for more seating than New York’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral or Cardinal Mahony’s celebrated Yellow Armadillo in L.A., both of which serve as the spiritual centerpiece of archdioceses that serve millions of Catholics?

Well, it just so happens that seed money for the mega-project was provided by Thomas S. Monaghan, former owner of the Detroit Tigers and founder of Dominos Pizza. Mr. Monaghan, a generous philanthropist, tends to think big. But one must understand that bigger is not necessarily better nor even desirable.

Wouldn’t it make much more sense for a fledgling school like Ave Maria to build a well-designed, modest-sized chapel for its community? (See Thomas Aquinas College for an excellent example.) After all, who in his right mind would donate even a dollar to a newly established university that appears to be blowing money like a drunken sailor? Three thousand tons of structural steel don’t come cheap.

Given the fact that Ave Maria touts its mission and its curriculum as being steeped in Catholic culture and tradition, its architecture (especially that of a sacred building) deserves to match that right-headed philosophy. Wouldn’t it make sense to patronize one of the architects who has been responsible for the recent renewal of sacred architecture in this country? Despite their major accomplishments in the design of beautiful Catholic churches, architects such as Duncan Stroik, Thomas Gordon Smith, Dino Marcantonio, and Henry Menzies weren’t even as much as invited to compete for this project. Two of these men also have campus chapels on their list of credits. Stroik is responsible for the Thomas Aquinas College’s beautiful new chapel and Thomas Gordon Smith designed the seminary for the Fraternity of St. Peter in Denton, Nebraska. Due in no small part to these talented Catholic architects, many are waking up to the fact that the churches designed and built in the latter half of the twentieth century have miserably failed the Catholic people. Why then settle for an ugly Goliath of a structure that will look dated even before it’s 3,000 tons of structural steel are sheathed in hothouse glass?

A suggestion to Ave Maria: This proposed chapel design is an error so egregious that it requires immediate attention. Dump these hideous plans. Hire a new architect, and start afresh, this time with an eye toward creating a beautiful house of God rather than simply an enormous one. (See my book Ugly As Sin for a few pointers.) Otherwise your school risks losing its hard-earned credibility. Your university is a promising one. Don’t mar your reputation with such an impractical eyesore.

Michael S. Rose is the author a several books including on church architecture including Ugly As Sin. His forthcoming book In Tiers of Glory: A History of Catholic Church Architecture in 100 Pages is due out in November. He is editor of Cruxnews.com.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: avemaria; catholic; chapel; florida; michael; rose; university
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To: Desdemona
I used to work in building with an atrium and the carpet under it had to be replaced due to the roof leaking - which it did every time it rained.

LOL! You tink they would have caught on and just put in a floor that could be mopped down. Idiots.

81 posted on 03/27/2004 7:34:26 AM PST by ELS
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To: Romulus; ninenot; Desdemona
There was a short news item in an issue of Latin Mass Magazine last year about the choirmaster who had been appointed by Pope Pius XII for life getting kicked out by those who have an aversion to beautiful music. I can dig it up if anyone is interested.
82 posted on 03/27/2004 7:40:22 AM PST by ELS
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To: ELS
Please dig it up and post it. I'm interested in it.
83 posted on 03/27/2004 8:27:03 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: Romulus
I had understood that the Oratory sanctuary was to be laid outad orientem.
84 posted on 03/27/2004 8:32:07 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Pyro7480
Pyro: Don't you understand that the schismatics expect that everyone else, once endlessly and uninvitedly "informed" by SSPX, will agree to bash all guys at the top of anything Catholic but the schism, which is to say anything actually Catholic. Note also that Fr. Fessio gets whacked with no stated personal knowledge of his attacker. After all, Fessio is not schismatic and therefore must be fair game for irresponsible attacks, right?????.

That having been said, the proposed church building is a monstrosity. Not a case of heresy or heterodoxy, just colossally poor architectural taste and judgment. Just one Elk's opinion.

AND, if the pope himself can commit PRUDENTIAL (not dogmatic) error, so can the pizza guy who writes the checks.

85 posted on 03/27/2004 9:05:20 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: ninenot
Hmmmm. Do they have any recordings extant?

I heard them sing when I was in Rome back in the 60s, but (1) I don't really remember what I heard, and (2) I was too young to appreciate any nuances anyhow.

86 posted on 03/27/2004 9:14:30 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Maximilian; ninenot; GirlShortstop; Desdemona
Yet another attempt of the schism to hijack all threads Catholic and to continue to play make-believe Catholic to scandalize those who are Catholic.

Michael Rose got the idea that Ave Maria has a reputation for embracing authentic Catholic culture and tradition by three means.

First, Michael Rose IS Catholic and would know Catholicism when he sees it.

Second, Rose does not mistake the chronic grumpiness that IS the schism du jour for the eternal truth that is Catholicism. Whining, moaning, groaning and ummmm, ummmmm, vitching are not Catholicism.

Third, Rose is not in schism and so he knows better than those impudent few who have fallen for the schism.

87 posted on 03/27/2004 9:17:12 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: ninenot
How about Holly, Spector, Sedaka????
88 posted on 03/27/2004 9:25:59 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
Here is a quote from the noted schismatic Cardinal Hoyos. You really should keep up.




http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1105698/posts?page=21#21


To: BlackElk

"The Cardinal underlined that Archbishop Lefebvre had never founded a proper structure of his fraternity that could be considered as a concrete act of schism."

4 posted on 03/26/2004 11:29:36 AM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
89 posted on 03/27/2004 9:39:01 AM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: ELS
You tink they would have caught on and just put in a floor that could be mopped down.

Well, see, it was a library.... We had plastic sheeting to put over the computers.

Just think, if it rains inside, all the candles will go out.
90 posted on 03/27/2004 10:19:52 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: ELS
There was a short news item in an issue of Latin Mass Magazine last year about the choirmaster who had been appointed by Pope Pius XII for life getting kicked out by those who have an aversion to beautiful music. I can dig it up if anyone is interested.

If you wouldn't mind.
91 posted on 03/27/2004 10:22:13 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Siobhan
But I do think the end result will be far better than Michael Rose imagines.

Have you read Michael Rose's books, "The Renovation Manipulation" and "Ugly as Sin"? Michael Rose has a degree in architecture. He has studied the issue of church architecture in modern America probably more than anyone else. He has earned the right to be taken seriously. And he is using objective standards to judge. It's not simply a matter of taste. This church does not meet the objective standards for anything approximating "traditional Catholic culture." But it does meet the standards for "fantasy of a megalomaniac," just like the "Crystal Cathedral" of that televangelist in Orange, CA.

92 posted on 03/27/2004 11:07:36 AM PST by Maximilian
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To: BlackElk
Michael Rose got the idea that Ave Maria has a reputation for embracing authentic Catholic culture and tradition by three means.

Sorry, but as usual, your "three means" don't mention even 1 word about the subject under discussion -- Ave Maria. Instead it is the usual ad hominem attacks on the poster. Fine. Say whatever you like about me. But just let it be noted that you had absolutely no response whatsoever to the fact that Ave Maria does NOT have a reputation as anything approaching "traditional."

And as far as "hijacking threads," let it also be noted that this thread is about one more neo-Catholic monstrosity, and you admit that it is a "monstrosity." That was the topic of discussion. And let me also point out that I've been saying for a long time, every time the topic of Ave Maria comes up, that this is a monumental folly. I expect better of you than to believe otherwise. Can you really honestly claim that a new "Catholic" school that accepts federal funding and has a Division I football program is going to turn out any better than all the existing "Catholic" schools that accept federal funding and have Division I football programs? And if you can, then perhaps you can also explain why Christendom and St. Thomas Aquinas College made the error of NOT going down that road?

As far as Fr. Fessio goes, this is the man who made the claim that we do not need to interpret Vatican II in light of all previous Catholic tradition. Instead we need to interpret all previous Catholic tradition in light of Vatican II. This is a tailor-made recipe for on-going non-stop Hegelian revolution. Every new innovation creates a ex post facto re-interpretation of everything that was believed before. This is possibly the most dangerous statement made since Vatican II. You cannot call such a man "traditional." And I'm sure that he does not call himself "traditional." So to say the Fr. Fessio is not a "traditional Catholic" is to do no more than state the obvious facts.

94 posted on 03/27/2004 11:19:28 AM PST by Maximilian
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To: ELS; ninenot; Desdemona; Siobhan
I believe the name of the displaced choir director is Valentino Miserachs Grau. He's now directing the Liberiana choir at S. Maria Maggiore.

Here are the articles you're interested in:

> Gregorian Chant: How and Why It Was Strangled in its Own Cradle

> Great Music in the Churches – And Why the Church Should Listen

> Liturgical Music: “Here Is the Reform that the Church Needs”

> New Liturgies. Bishop Piero Marini doesn’t like TV

> Polyphonic and Gregorian Chant. The Last Bastion at Rome’s Basilica of St. Mary Major

95 posted on 03/27/2004 11:40:15 AM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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To: Romulus; Siobhan; Desdemona; ninenot
The article that Romulus linked to in reply #76 (and again in reply #95) mentions Msgr. Bartolucci -
"The coup de grace came in 1997 with the firing of the Sistina’s director, Maestro Domenico Bartolucci, an extraordinary interpreter of the great Roman tradition of sacred music."

Here is the item from Latin Mass Magazine, Summer 2002, pg. 9:

Goodbye, Good Music

From 1956 to 1997, Monsignor Domenico Bartolucci was music director of the Sistine Chapel, the "Schola Cantorum" of Papal Masses, in the glorious tradition of Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina and Lorenzo Perosi. He is now one of the most famous casualties of the liturgical reform adopted in the wake of the Second Vatican Council. To the enemies of tradition, he is a nuisance; and they have succeeded in neutralizing him. At the age of 85, in good shape and proud of his genuine Tuscan character, he keeps busy by touring the country to direct his compositions of sacred music, such as "Missa Jubilaei" of 1950.

He considers himself an exile and marginalized. Whatever happened to Monsignor Bartolucci whom Pope Pius XII had made an "ad vitam" (for life) director of the Sistine Chapel? Vatican Council II changed all that. "I was never happy about the new liturgy," reveals Monsignor Bartolucci in an interview for The Latin Mass. "My compositions, as well as Palestrina's and Perosi's, seem to be in contrast with the new Mass. The Church doesn't realize what a great treasure she is losing by giving up Gregorian and polyphonic music." Never at ease with the liturgical reforms of Vatican II, Bartolucci was viewed by many as an inconvenient personality. "I have never celebrated the new Mass, and continue to use the Missal of Pius V," he says. Five years ago, on the occasion of the Eucharistic Congress in Bologna, rock star Bob Dylan, hat over his eyes, sang rock music in front of the Pope. Bartolucci was furious. "Had I been Cardinal Biffi [Archbishop of Bologna] I would have resigned."

At all major liturgical ceremonies, the Sistine Chapel Choir would have to take turns with other choirs. He is also very critical of Bishop Piero Marini, Master of Pontifical Ceremonies. His outspokenness cost him dearly. In 1997, while on a tour in Japan, he was dismissed and replaced by Monsignor Giuseppe Liberto of the Cathedral Choir of Monreale in Sicily. In his defense, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, expressed his solidarity and urged him to "resist." It is worth noting Cardinal Ratzinger's expertise in music: his brother George was director of the Cathedral Choir of Ratisbona, where Perosi himself had been a student. A protest against Bartolucci's dismissal was conveyed to Cardinal Angelo Sodano, Secretary of State, and also by the Jewish president of the National Academy of Santa Cecilia, Bruno Cagli. In the name of the Academy and of many in the music world, he expressed his concern over the possible loss of an "incommensurable religious and artistic patrimony tied into the tradition of Roman polyphony." Riccardo Muti, also one of the most world-renowned orchestra directors, voiced a protest. All to no avail. Maestro Domenico Bartolucci was sacrificed in the name of modern trends and of people's "participation" in Globovision broadcast Masses. - Alessandro Zangrando

96 posted on 03/27/2004 2:26:23 PM PST by ELS
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To: Maximilian
Watch that condescending tone, Max.

I've read his books. He's studied church architecture in America. He isn't alone. He has a degree in architecture. Again. He isn't alone.

Is it now time to start pulling out our credentials, Max, and start whacking each other over the head?

97 posted on 03/27/2004 2:28:00 PM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: All
From Architecture, Music and Religious Art: The Church’s Lost Pearl Is Re-Found,
"In 1997 bishops from the region of Tuscany published a pastoral letter – the first ever of its kind. Their letter was the first Church document ever to address the spiritual, pastoral and catechetic role of religious art. A diocesan office in Florence was opened and expressly dedicated to promoting teaching religion through art. "

"The diocesan office is headed by Fr. Timothy Verdon, an American scholar and priest living in the Tuscan capital since 1994. Fr. Verdon, already author of a magnificent book, "L’arte sacra in Italia" ("Sacred Art in Italy", published by Mondadori) is currently writing "A Christian Art History Manual" to be used in the formation of priests, as suggested in 1992 by the Pontifical Commission on Cultural Patrimony of the Church in an letter addressed to bishops worldwide. The project includes a test basis with various national editions, together with a CD-ROM and multi-media web site for distance learning."

"The project’s leading idea is that Christian Europe, as urged by John Paul II, can be revived precisely in rediscovering the powerful educational tool used to teach the faith through church architecture and religious art. Italy and the rest of Europe are incomparably rich in this sense. And Christian Europe will be revived through the formation of priests to meet such a challenge."

98 posted on 03/27/2004 2:48:14 PM PST by ELS
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To: ELS
Thanks for the clarification. Yes, Marini is a malign influence. It's a source of dismay that he has such influence over the Pope. I'm told he's a deeply loathed man in Rome, so we can at least hope that when the Holy Father goes to his reward, Marini will go to his.
99 posted on 03/27/2004 2:52:45 PM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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To: BlackElk
When you repeatedly bleat "schism" 50 times per post you sound dumb. Not for anything but Rome has made it clear that the Society is NOT in schism.

Not that such would matter to a bottom feeder, just thought I'd let you know.

100 posted on 03/27/2004 3:43:40 PM PST by AAABEST (<a href="http://www.angelqueen.org">Traditional Catholicism is Back and Growing</a>)
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