[RobbyS]

Sorry, but I do not regard that as a proper test. Nothing in Scripture contradicts the notion that Charity does not end with the grave. Will your mother forget you when she dies? Maccabees, of course, shows that some Jews offered prayers for the dead, so the idea of no commerce between living and dead is simply a Protestant dogma. Yes, I know that you don't regard Maccabees as Scripture, but that was also a partisan position.

[PetroniusMaximus]

***Sorry, but I do not regard that as a proper test. Nothing in Scripture contradicts the notion that Charity does not end with the grave.****


Yes, but if it was so important don't you thing there would be one example, just ONE example in the NT?

When the disciple ask Jesus to teach them how to pray, he gave them the "Our Father" but in it there is no mention of asking for the petition of the saints. If it is so important why didn't he mention it.

He could have said, "And when you pray remember to ask Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to pray for you."

Prayer is mentioned about 170 times in the NT, and not one mention of praying through saints.

Don't you see, you are doing something with no warrent in the New Covenant. We are told how to pray. We are told to pray to God (through Christ).

I take my petitions to God and to Jesus. But in that time I also commune with Him

You take your petitions to the saints who you believe will take them to God. I assume you believe you are communing with the saint you are praying to. Wouldn't you prefer to spend that time with Jesus?

Isn't it just safer to take them directly to God since that is what Jesus told us clearly to do?