[Viva Christo Rey]

Pope Paul IV, 1559: "...and We have been concerned also lest it may befall Us to see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by the prophet Daniel, in the holy place."

Such as:

Roncalli, aka "John 23rd"

Montini, aka "Paul 6th"

Wojtyla, aka "JP2"

[BlackElk]

With the suggestion that John XXIII, Paul VI and John Paul II were not valid popes, you are making Marcel Lefebvre look sane, rational and Catholic, relatively speaking, which is not an easy task.

Since every cardinal-elector, now living, has been appointed by one of these three popes whose credentials you seem to challenge, how will you reconstitute the papacy? Vox populi? Acclamation by the people of Rome (who regularly elect atheist and communist mayors?)??? Some other method? Please specify to enlighten the poor benighted followers of Pope John Paul II.

Also, let's hear the specifics of any heresies which you attribute to John XXIII, Paul VI or JP II PRIOR to their respective papacies. Otherwise, may we conclude that your idea of "the abomination of desolation" is a pope or three who steadfastly refuse to cater to your tastes in rubrics, style, governance or whatever? Is there a significance to the photo of JP II???? Are those rabbis in the picture? Do you find that relevant?

[Land of the Irish]

That "broken cross" staff of Paul VI is horrendous. I went through a tour of the Papal Museum in the Sistine chapel. Beautiful religious artwork, in chronological order, until you "entered" the era of Paul VI. It was like viewing art from a totally different religion. I hadn't even noticed I was viewing art in a chronological order, until I entered Paul VI's room. I had to retrace my steps to figure out the sudden departure.