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To: Salve Regina
I'm not judging anybody, just wondering what good it is to pack a Catholic church with CINO pagans.
LOL. You say you aren’t judging anyone, and then you make a rather unsupportable claim that the new Catholics are CINO pagans. That is textbook judging, and its made on people you don't know.

In my limited experience, they aren’t. Most of those converting to the Church are pretty serious about it, and anything but CINOs or pagans. I’ve met several who have had families disown them when they become Catholic. But of course, they must be CINOs, as you said so.

Does it bother you that no president in this country can be elected without the Catholic vote, and we voted Clinton in twice? Does it bother you that the majority of Catholics vote pro-abortion candidates into office?
BS.

OK, my now standard and saved response:

So how do the Catholics who attend Church vote? A survey during the presidential election for a group called “catholics for a free choice” (or as Catholics like to call them, “heretics are us”) found that Gore was winning among “Catholics who attend church [sic] infrequently (45%-39%) or hardly at all (53%-31%).” On the other hand Bush was winning among “frequent churchgoers (52%-33%), who represent Bush’s strongest voting block among Catholics.

That, of course was a pre-election poll. Post election polls indicate the gap was even larger:

"Among religiously active Catholics, who have a discernible political identity in contrast to the nonreligiously active, Bush won by 55 percent to Gore's 24 percent," Wagner wrote, citing private polling by his firm, QEV Analytics, and Penn Schoen & Berland Associates Inc. "This was the best Catholic showing for a Republican presidential candidate since 1972, equal to Ronald Reagan's 1984 showing and better than his 1980 showing."

Wagner's findings are supported by broader trends: The more religious a voter is (based on church attendance), the more likely the voter is to be a Republican. At the two extremes, voters who attend services more than once a week voted for Bush by 63 percent to 36 percent, said VNS, while those who never attend services voted for Gore, 61 percent to 32 percent.

According to the polling active Catholics voted MORE THAN TWO to ONE (thats 2-1) for Bush over Gore. MORE THAN! Not to mention the 21% not mentioned in this Poll, most of whom found Bush entirely too liberal. When you assume that Catholics vote for Democrats you are falling into a standard media trap. The media hypes up this “Catholic vote” in an effort to convince both Catholics and Protestants that there is a difference between them, and that they can’t trust each other. They try to drive a wedge, and you help by repeating the stereotype. The media finesses this by never telling you that they are polling both apostate Catholics and Church going Catholics, and lumping the two together. Gee, what effect do you suppose that will have on the results? But the fact is that both Churchgoing Protestants and Catholics vote conservative. By a nearly 2-1 margin, and even better than that for active Catholics.

it bother you that the Blessed Sacrament is routinely treated with totall irreverence and the Pope is defied by the Amchurch clergy?
Well, in my diocese we have what must be a dozen or more parishes with perpetual adoration. I don’t see the Blessed Sacrament treated with total irreverence. I know it happens somewhere, but your rather bleak picture doesn’t seem to match reality everywhere. And I wouldn’t consider my diocese to be conservative.

patent  +AMDG

47 posted on 03/23/2004 8:03:03 AM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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