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To: Gamecock; CARepubGal; drstevej; fishtank; Wrigley; lockeliberty; Calvinist_Dark_Lord
...allow me to explain that "backslider" is born-again slang; it means ex-Christian. It's not a compliment.

I've never heard the term "backslider" to refer to an "ex-Christian." I've been a member of this "Cult" for over 30 years. My pastor always refers to backsliding as what we do when we stop moving forward in the Lord. When we sit stationary in our walk we backslide. His phrase is "if you are not moving forward, you are sliding back."

If someone refers to themselves as an "ex-Christian" they are not backsliding. They are off the slide altogether.

This guy apparently thinks that because Calvary Chapel did not fill his "needs" that Christ has failed him. But its not about filling his "needs" is it? It is about Christ changning us so that our will and his will are in conformity.

I suspect that this guy always wanted a God that would fill his needs and he never found it. IMO he never found it because he wasn't looking to find God, he was looking to find himself. Well you won't find yourself if you are looking for God. You will lose yourself.

He never learned that lesson. It's no wonder he didn't find what he was looking for at Calvary Chapel. They don't sell that there.

18 posted on 03/15/2004 4:56:01 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Let your light so shine before men....)
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To: P-Marlowe
I've never heard the term "backslider" to refer to an "ex-Christian." I've been a member of this "Cult" for over 30 years. My pastor always refers to backsliding as what we do when we stop moving forward in the Lord. When we sit stationary in our walk we backslide. His phrase is "if you are not moving forward, you are sliding back."

That's the first thing that made me suspicious. Who ever this person is, (s)he doesn't seem to have picked up the "lingo" or nuances of "Evangelicaleese". One would think that somebody associated with those Bigoted fundamentalists for that many years could at least speak the language correctly.

If someone refers to themselves as an "ex-Christian" they are not backsliding. They are off the slide altogether.

Or was at best a "social member" who showed up to put on a religious show, or could it beeeeeeeeeeeee...had another agenda??

This guy apparently thinks that because Calvary Chapel did not fill his "needs" that Christ has failed him. But its not about filling his "needs" is it? It is about Christ changning us so that our will and his will are in conformity.

"But, but, but...that means i can't bugger little boys any more, or support murdering babies, or supporting the genocidal policies of left wing dictators and oligarchies, or....i'd have to subjugate my desires to someone else and feel bad about all of the above, can't have that!"

I suspect that this guy always wanted a God that would fill his needs and he never found it. IMO he never found it because he wasn't looking to find God, he was looking to find himself. Well you won't find yourself if you are looking for God. You will lose yourself.

He found what he was looking for. Behold, the Gloria Patri to his god:

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble,
When you're perfect in every way,
i can't wait to look in the mirror,
Cause i get better lookin each day!

To know me is to love me,
i must be a hell of a man!
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble,
But i'm doin the best that i can.
(With apologies to Mac Davis)

He never learned that lesson. It's no wonder he didn't find what he was looking for at Calvary Chapel. They don't sell that there.

Councellor, you have no need to defend against this piece of garbage, most of us saw right through it, and beat you to the punch on this one. However, if you want to play prosecuting attourney on the witness, be my guest, it will be amusing.

20 posted on 03/15/2004 5:23:16 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: P-Marlowe
After I read this piece I came to understand why you have a propensity to test other Christians with your emotional experientialist litmus tests. It appears to me that this guy finally just OD on his own emotions.
24 posted on 03/15/2004 6:29:13 PM PST by lockeliberty (Christ proclaims: "This is Mine!" over the whole plain of human existence.)
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