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A Lenten Feast?
Catholic Exchange ^ | March 15, 2004 | Marcellino D'Ambrosio, Ph.D.

Posted on 03/15/2004 5:44:32 AM PST by Desdemona

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To: IMRight
Ok. When you get around to answering the question please let me know?

I understand that the OT feasts are to a great extent fulfilled. But does Scripture say to change the manner of celebrating the Passover? Or is it an assumption on the part of some man?

The same argument can be made for Easter. The passion changes everything.

19 posted on 03/15/2004 12:31:26 PM MST by IMRight

Who changed the L-rd's Passover to Easter, the Pagan feast of Ishtar of Babylon

ON THE KEEPING OF EASTER.


From the Letter of the Emperor to all those not present at the Council.
(Found in Eusebius, Vita Const., Lib. iii., 18-20.)

It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom[the calculation] of the Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and whose minds were blinded. In rejecting their custom,(1) we may transmit to our descendants the legitimate mode of celebrating Easter, which we have observed from the time of the Saviour's Passion to the present day[according to the day of the week]. We ought not, therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour has shown us another way; our worship follows a more legitimate and more convenient course(the order of the days of the week); and consequently, in unanimously adopting this mode, we desire, dearest brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without their direction we could not keep this feast. How can they be in the right, they who, after the death of the Saviour, have no longer been led by reason but by wild violence, as their delusion may urge them? They do not possess the truth in this Easter question; for, in their blindness and repugnance to all improvements, they frequently celebrate two passovers in the same year. We could not imitate those who are openly in error. How, then, could we follow these Jews, who are most certainly blinded by error? for to celebrate the passover twice in one year is totally inadmissible. But even if this were not so, it would still be your duty not to tarnish your soul by communications with such wicked people[the Jews].


http://www.catholicfirst.com/thefaith/churchfathers/volume37/ecouncil3705.cfm

a bondslave to the Christ

chuck



21 posted on 03/15/2004 11:39:58 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua == YHvH is my Salvation)
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To: JohnnyM
No ! We are at liberty in the Christ
He has paid for our sins.
chuck
22 posted on 03/15/2004 11:42:21 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua == YHvH is my Salvation)
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To: XeniaSt
Excellent! Some of your posts had me confused there for a second :) My apologies

JM
23 posted on 03/15/2004 11:44:08 AM PST by JohnnyM
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To: XeniaSt
Don't make me go and borrow Reggie's Hobbes Spin graphic. :-)

Does Scripture dictate celebrating the Passover differently now? Or do you still celebrate Passover the same way OT Jews did?

I agree Christ IS our Passover and it's entirely appropriate for us to concentrate on His sacrifice and ressurection instead of the outmoded lamb. (We call that Easter, but the name is irrelevant). I'm just wondering what Scriptural basis you have for the change?

24 posted on 03/15/2004 11:48:16 AM PST by IMRight
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To: IMRight
Don't make me go and borrow Reggie's Hobbes Spin graphic. :-)

Does Scripture dictate celebrating the Passover differently now? Or do you still celebrate Passover the same way OT Jews did?

I agree Christ IS our Passover and it's entirely appropriate for us to concentrate on His sacrifice and ressurection instead of the outmoded lamb. (We call that Easter, but the name is irrelevant). I'm just wondering what Scriptural basis you have for the change?

24 posted on 03/15/2004 12:48:16 PM MST by IMRight

I change nothing, We celebrate it as before but with the full understanding of the feast of Passover.

the only change was made in 325 AD at Nicea.

And if you reflect on the feast of G-d: Passover and not the Pagan feast of Ishtar of Babylon, you will see the truth.

a bondslave to the Christ

chuck


Gotta go; see you later.

c

25 posted on 03/15/2004 11:58:13 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua == YHvH is my Salvation)
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To: XeniaSt
I change nothing, We celebrate it as before but with the full understanding of the feast of Passover.

VERY interesting take. "Nothing is really the same, but we haven't changed anything."

Do you sacrifice a lamb? Or do you celebrate that the Lamb has already been sacrificed? If the second, where did God command that.

I'm afraid you're in the same boat - just with a different name.

26 posted on 03/15/2004 12:21:45 PM PST by IMRight
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To: IMRight; dangus; XeniaSt
"Do you sacrifice a lamb?"

LOL - XeniaSt only pretends to celebrate the Pasch as Moses instructed.

Just like he/she pretends its more "scriptural" to use Hebrew words and concepts that he/she doesn't understand.

Pretentiousness is at the heart of this anti-Catholic's mindless ramblings.
27 posted on 03/15/2004 3:00:06 PM PST by Tantumergo
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To: Tantumergo; XeniaSt
Just like he/she pretends its more "scriptural" to use Hebrew words and concepts that he/she doesn't understand.

Oh boy... Do NOT mistake chuck for a girl! Believe me... I made that mistake a year or two ago and he put some kind of vodoo curse on my PC. (just kidding Chuck).

Pretentiousness is at the heart of this anti-Catholic's mindless ramblings.

I know it comes across that way. And he certainly has his moments. But he's largely genuine. He isn't "pretending" it's more Scriptural... he believes it's more appropriate. What he lacks in a "papa" or "brother" relationship he makes up for in respect for the Father that is too often lacking elsewhere.

28 posted on 03/15/2004 3:07:16 PM PST by IMRight
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