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To: RnMomof7; CindyDawg; OLD REGGIE; malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant; Quester
Why did man need Salvation/ a Savior?

Why did Jesus have to die for man in order to get salvation?

Why couldn't God tell man if he would ask God/Heavenly Father for forgiveness he would be saved?

Why would God/Heavenly Father need to come to earth?

Why would God/Heavenly Father need to now call himself Son of God when he visited earth?

There was a point where Jesus cried unto the Father in Heaven and also a time that Jesus the Son of God was seperated from God the Father.

How is that when Jesus is according to the Nicene Creed really God the Father!

If God the Heavenly Father is a Spirit....

after he came to earth he had a temporal body of Flesh and Blood,....

and than God reutrn as the Son with a resurrected Body of Flesh and Bone!

All the while God the Father was here on earth he was to show the way and did the WILL of his Father in Heaven!

I pray you will ponder and not just react!

I think there is more to these questions and my point of view that Father and Son are two different indiviual personages, but also a better understanding of the Laws that we are living under here on earth is NOT the same Laws of how other Kingdoms of the Lord functions.

In the Garden of Eden the Laws are different, and the ways of the Lord could not continue there to bring about the Lord's agenda!

4,041 posted on 04/13/2004 2:02:57 PM PDT by restornu (Discerning eyes can read it in the ether!:)
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To: restornu
Why did Jesus have to die for man in order to get salvation?

He didn't.

Why couldn't God tell man if he would ask God/Heavenly Father for forgiveness he would be saved?

He did.

4,044 posted on 04/13/2004 2:12:55 PM PDT by malakhi (L'shana haba'ah b'Yerushalayim!)
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To: restornu
Why did man need Salvation/ a Savior?

Because man's sin makes separates him from God, his source.
Isaiah 53:1 Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:

2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Why did Jesus have to die for man in order to get salvation?

For us to be purged of our sins, we needed the shed blood of a perfect sacrifice.
Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Why couldn't God tell man if he would ask God/Heavenly Father for forgiveness he would be saved?

Because He will not hear the prayer of the sinner.
Isaiah 53:1 Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:

2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Why would God/Heavenly Father need to come to earth?

God the Father didn't need to come to earth ... neither did He come here in the incarnation.

Why would God/Heavenly Father need to now call himself Son of God when he visited earth?

God the Father did not come to earth in the incarnation. God the Son came to earth. They are two distinct Persons ... but they are both God.

There was a point where Jesus cried unto the Father in Heaven and also a time that Jesus the Son of God was seperated from God the Father.

God the Father and God the Son are two distinct Persons ... but they are both God.

How is that when Jesus is according to the Nicene Creed really God the Father!

God the Father and God the Son are two distinct Persons ... but they are both God.

If God the Heavenly Father is a Spirit.... after he came to earth he had a temporal body of Flesh and Blood, ... and than God return as the Son with a resurrected Body of Flesh and Bone!

God the Father did not come to earth. God the Father and God the Son are two distinct Persons ... but they are both God.

All the while God the Father was here on earth he was to show the way and did the WILL of his Father in Heaven!

God the Father did not come to earth. God the Father and God the Son are two distinct Persons ... but they are both God.

4,056 posted on 04/13/2004 2:49:34 PM PDT by Quester (I just have this thing about accuracy.)
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To: restornu
Why did Jesus have to die for man in order to get salvation?

Did you mistype here rest? Or do you really believe what you wrote here?

4,093 posted on 04/13/2004 4:19:27 PM PDT by Wrigley
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