[RnMomof7]

Calvinists often seem to enjoy emphasizing the sovereign power of God but then feign ignorance when it comes to Creation. God created us. We did not ask for creation. We did not participate in our own making. God did that.

We often speak of the sovereignty of God at creation.

And if God not only knew but indeed decided a priori that some, indeed most, of His creation would be damned to Hell, then God "caused" them to deny Him. You cannot dance around this. You can attempt to negate it or play word games with it, but in the end, you have a sovereign God who causes EVERYTHING, including the rejection of Himself

No , God takes nothing away from the unsaved , they make exactly the free will choice that they prefer.

God adds to the will of elect the desire and ability to repent and believe, by breaking the bondage of the will.

Men will always choose what they prefer, and unregenerate men will never prefer to have Jesus as their Lord.

[SoothingDave]

No , God takes nothing away from the unsaved , they make exactly the free will choice that they prefer.

Who made them to prefer what they prefer? Why are they like that? Who is responsible?

SD

[the808bass]

Men will always choose what they prefer, and unregenerate men will never prefer to have Jesus as their Lord.

You guys are masters of the tautology. This is a "duh" statement, really, isn't it?