To: jude24
Calvinists don't believe the gospel is only offered to the elect, just that only the elect could choose to accept it. It all stems back to "total depravity."Hey Jude
Maybe I'm missing something here but this doesn't make sense to me. God would offer this gift to all but then only allow some to accept it? Isn't that kind of like offering candy to children but jerking it back when they reach for it?
To: CindyDawg
To: CindyDawg
God would offer this gift to all but then only allow some to accept it? Isn't that kind of like offering candy to children but jerking it back when they reach for it? It's more like offering candy to a group of hardened candy-haters. The hand remains unmoved, the offer still on the table, but because we are hardened sinners who hate God, apart from his intervention, we'd all reject His gospel.
To: CindyDawg; the808bass
To: CindyDawg; Dr. Eckleburg
Isn't that kind of like offering candy to children but jerking it back when they reach for it?No, because the non-Elect will not reach for it. So it's not a matter of God withholding from the non-Elect something for which they are yearning.
3,913 posted on
04/13/2004 8:32:09 AM PDT by
ksen
(This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
To: CindyDawg
Maybe I'm missing something here but this doesn't make sense to me. God would offer this gift to all but then only allow some to accept it? Isn't that kind of like offering candy to children but jerking it back when they reach for it? God restrains no man from coming to Him. On judgment day every man will stand in front of God and they will be without an excuse . That is because they have rejected Christ and the Gospel with their free will. The problem is that the sons of Adam are not interested in the gospel, the sons of God are.
God does not owe you salvation cindy , He is not a debtor to me
3,991 posted on
04/13/2004 12:19:12 PM PDT by
RnMomof7
(Broomstick Jockey)
To: CindyDawg
Opps left a letter off
God does not owe you salvation cindy , He is not a debtor to men
3,993 posted on
04/13/2004 12:20:01 PM PDT by
RnMomof7
(Broomstick Jockey)
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