[JohnnyM]

"There is a possible third category of those who have not heard and do not "believe or disbelieve"."

Do you have Scripture for this? Are you saying Jesus is wrong in saying NOONE comes to the Father except through Him?

Romans 10
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

How can one be saved without believing??

JM

[IMRight]

Do you have Scripture for this? Are you saying Jesus is wrong in saying NOONE comes to the Father except through Him?

You're running around in circles on this. I'm saying that the verse is not exclusive the way you are using it. For instance... those OT saints certainly did not "believe in Jesus" by your current standards, yet they got in. That does not negate the verse... it merely means that the verse shows that whoever gets into heaven got there "through Jesus". You're just defining "through Jesus" narrowly (now, but not in the OT). The same with the pygmies... I don't know if ANY of them get to go - only that IF they DO get in, it will be because of Jesus (whether they know His name or not).