Do you have any scripture that teaches God chooses not to know the future at any time?
If God foreknows those that will never accept Him, then He creates them specifically for hell right? Don't you think if he meant it when he said He wants all men to be saved He could or would do that?
Calvinists tend to think of the OSAS doctrine as a kind of bad twist on good doctrine.
OSAS is often taught as the belief that once you say the prayer you are in no matter what that is bad doctrine.
We teach the Preservation of the Saints. That is that Gods Grace keeps us , we can not keep ourselves.
The elect can stray , but never further than God allows. When we see one backslide it often looks like they were never saved..But when Christ goes out and rounds up the lost sheep , He is glorified for His faithfulness to His promises.
It is after all , all about Him , not us:>)
nah, i just make this stuff up as i go along :')
i'll get back with you after siredward gets home to help me watch these yahoos,ok?
I think this is an important point:
Does God exist within time, or in eternity?
It is my position that God transcends time (He created it, after all). So to speak of God "knowing the future" is a misnomer. It is a failure of our limited language that we fall into describing Him this way. God doesn't "know the future", because this implies that He exists along a particular trajectory of time. Instead, He simply KNOWS.