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To: malakhi; snerkel; ksen; RnMomof7; HarleyD; Alex Murphy
Would you say that it is impossible that "free will" would be part of God's plan?

Old Saw #2 is really a restatement of Old Saw #1.

I look to Scripture for answers, as we've been instructed to do. Do you find anything in Scripture that says man's sovereign will must be a part of God's plan?

Instead, I think we find hundreds of passages which attest to God's singular, omniscient, perfect decree as being the sole motivating force in all existence. Within that reality, we recognize our place.

"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will." -- Ephesians 1:4-5.

In what way do you see this as comforting?

How could you not see this as comforting?

If our salvation, our eternal bliss in Paradise, is assured and actually brings pleasure not only to ourselves but to God, the creator of the universe, how much more comfort do we need?

2,921 posted on 04/09/2004 1:30:24 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Would you say that it is impossible that "free will" would be part of God's plan?

Old Saw #2 is really a restatement of Old Saw #1. I look to Scripture for answers, as we've been instructed to do. Do you find anything in Scripture that says man's sovereign will must be a part of God's plan? Instead, I think we find hundreds of passages which attest to God's singular, omniscient, perfect decree as being the sole motivating force in all existence. Within that reality, we recognize our place.

Why is it so difficult to give a straight answer? May I assume, then, that your answer to my question is "YES"?

2,957 posted on 04/09/2004 3:43:06 PM PDT by malakhi (L'shana haba'ah b'Yerushalayim!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If our salvation, our eternal bliss in Paradise, is assured and actually brings pleasure not only to ourselves but to God, the creator of the universe, how much more comfort do we need?

By "our" you mean?

3,009 posted on 04/09/2004 7:23:58 PM PDT by the808bass
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