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To: JohnnyM
Simple question. What happened to those who Jesus called to be His disciples? Did they spend time "thinking" about whether to follow Him or not, or did they drop what they were doing and immediately follow Him?
2,844 posted on 04/09/2004 9:40:21 AM PDT by snerkel ("He's not coming back to preach!")
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To: snerkel
Simple question. What happened to those who Jesus called to be His disciples? Did they spend time "thinking" about whether to follow Him or not, or did they drop what they were doing and immediately follow Him?

Better think throught that one again. If you're saying they didn't choose to follow Him because they were previously selected as part of the elect... can you think about one of them who demonstrated that perhas he was NOT elect?

2,847 posted on 04/09/2004 9:47:06 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: snerkel
Simple question. What happened to those who Jesus called to be His disciples? Did they spend time "thinking" about whether to follow Him or not, or did they drop what they were doing and immediately follow Him?

Did any who Jesus called to follow Him choose not to ?
Mark 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
Did any who followed Jesus for a time stop following Him at some point ?
John 6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

2,851 posted on 04/09/2004 10:06:03 AM PDT by Quester (The mills of God may grind slowly, ... but they grind exceedingly fine.)
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To: snerkel
Simple question.

Luke 5 gives us insight into the calling of Jesus Christ to His disciples.

Luke 5
1 Now it happened that while the crowd was pressing around Him and listening to the word of God, He was standing by the lake of Gennesaret;
2 and He saw two boats lying at the edge of the lake; but the fishermen had gotten out of them and were washing their nets.
3 And He got into one of the boats, which was Simon's, and asked him to put out a little way from the land. And He sat down and began teaching the people from the boat.
4 When He had finished speaking, He said to Simon, "Put out into the deep water and let down your nets for a catch."
5 Simon answered and said, "Master, we worked hard all night and caught nothing, but I will do as You say and let down the nets."
6 When they had done this, they enclosed a great quantity of fish, and their nets began to break;
7 so they signaled to their partners in the other boat for them to come and help them. And they came and filled both of the boats, so that they began to sink.
8 But when Simon Peter saw that, he fell down at Jesus' feet, saying, "Go away from me Lord, for I am a sinful man!"
9 For amazement had seized him and all his companions because of the catch of fish which they had taken;
10 and so also were James and John, sons of Zebedee, who were partners with Simon. And Jesus said to Simon, "Do not fear, from now on you will be catching men."
11 When they had brought their boats to land, they left everything and followed Him.

Here we see Peter realizing he is a sinner. It is after this event that he follows Jesus. Very similar in respect to Adam seeing his nakedness and then seeing his need for covering. Also, these men were not unaware of who Jesus was.

We read in John 1:
35 Again the next day John was standing with two of his disciples,
36 and he looked at Jesus as He walked, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God!"
37 The two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus.
38 And Jesus turned and saw them following, and said to them, "What do you seek?" They said to Him, "Rabbi (which translated means Teacher), where are You staying?"
39 He said to them, "Come, and you will see." So they came and saw where He was staying; and they stayed with Him that day, for it was about the tenth hour.
40 One of the two who heard John speak and followed Him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother.
41 He found first his own brother Simon and said to him, "We have found the Messiah" (which translated means Christ).
42 He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, "You are Simon the son of John; you shall be called Cephas" (which is translated Peter).
43 The next day He purposed to go into Galilee, and He found Philip. And Jesus said to him, "Follow Me."

So Peter and the others knew that Jesus was claimed to be the Lamb of God and the Messiah prior to their calling. So their did appear to be some thought or at least ideas concerning Jesus and who He was.

JM
2,856 posted on 04/09/2004 10:27:11 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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