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To: CindyDawg
Very confusing Ksen. Remember the other day when I said you posted differently but couldn't describe it? I can now . It's prideful. I'm not going to talk about ET since she isn't here to defend herself but from your stand point what difference does it make? If a non-believer is part of the "elect" what difference does it make.? Why care? What will happen will happen.

I'm sorry my posts have come across as prideful to you.

Why care? What difference does it make? I care because I don't want to see anyone go to Hell. I care because I want to be obedient to God who said we are to go and preach the Gospel to every creature. Who am I to pick and choose who to tell? I don't know who is part of the Elect and who are not. It's my job to present the Gospel and it is God's job to give the increase. How do I know that God won't all of a sudden give an increase in Steven's life after hearing this a millionth time?

From my prespective I see things right the opposite. I wish there were more non-believers hanging out here to hear the "word" over and over and just maybe some of it might sink in. It really bothers me though when people we are working with have other Christians come in and tell them they are either in or out depending on whether God enie, minied them to Hell or Heaven before they were created. Why should they care about accepting Christ if told their future decided a long time ago?

I don't see those who share my perspective telling people it doesn't matter what they do. I see those opposed to my side telling others that based on my views it doesn't matter.

Most Calvinists have just as strong a passion for the souls of the lost as most Non-Calvinists.

2,762 posted on 04/08/2004 3:25:26 PM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: ksen
Others might disagree but I'm not sure our differences are salvation issues which is what is important to me . I understand that you will see this differently but your belief seems to squash hope to me. How could I lead someone to Christ and at the same time tell them that they have a (what?) 50%? chance of being accepted. (or rejected?)
2,765 posted on 04/08/2004 3:51:47 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: ksen
I don't see those who share my perspective telling people it doesn't matter what they do. I see those opposed to my side telling others that based on my views it doesn't matter.

Good post Kevin . The truth is they do not understand the responsibility one feels when they know that their salvation is 100% a gift. It changes the relationship one has with God and the Gospel completely.

The desire to see that God's word is held close and that we be obedient to the gospel's commands .

2,860 posted on 04/09/2004 11:03:38 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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