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So all of a sudden all on your own you became a calvivist just by reading the Bible, just like they don't have to teach those folks how to speak in tongues? LOL yeah right.

Say I bet you would be interested in this really nice piece of land I have for sale, just give me a call and we can work out the details.

BigMack

So all of a sudden all on your own you became a calvivist just by reading the Bible, just like they don't have to teach those folks how to speak in tongues? LOL yeah right

Not exactly. When I realized that the UMC was an apostate church, I investigated other denominations. This is when I learned about Reformed Theology.

It was then I saw all those passages that contained words like predestined, foreknew, chosen, the elect, "I know my sheep and they know my name", and dozens of others. As a Methodist, all Bible studies I had ever participated in skipped over these "difficult verses".

If you have bought into Arminianism, that explaines how you ended up with that "really nice piece of land" you want to sell me. :-)

Here is a really good insight into non-Reformed churches and "Calvinists" taken from: http://members.aol.com/twarren10/articles/reformed.html

The history of liberalism in the Churches is that they have deteriorated from historic truths into the social gospels and humanism which cloud their true calling and mission. The God centered principles of the Reformation, and indeed the Apostles, are imperative for a healthy and God Glorifying Church. Sadly, they are quickly being abandoned. In today's politically correct society, keeping God's Word faithfully is both unfashionable and unpalatable in most Church circles. The term 'Reformed' in our day is generally applied only to those Churches which follow the Biblical doctrines of Predestination (Sovereignty of God), Irresistible Grace, and Salvation by faith alone. Doctrines which are sometimes (errantly) called Calvinism. We don't follow Calvin, we follow Christ! We don't follow his Calvin's word, we follow God's Word, and quote it word for word. Let there be no confusion between Christ's name (Christian) which we bear, and Calvin's.