[malakhi]

Why would he choose some to save and create others designed for Hell. Eternal death for this one, life for the other?

If God chooses, then we have no choice. There is no getting around this.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

If God chooses, then we have no choice. There is no getting around this.

No you dummy :) our choice comes after God makes his choice, you know the irrestiable grace thing...er wait umm...I know, it comes after we KNOW we are one of the "ELECT" we then can choose to run all over the internet full of pride telling everybody else they can go pound sand, that is until they come across someone that is confused by religion and then they can then proced to convince them that they too are one of the "ELECT" and BTW your wife and kids are grandfathered in so don't sweat it my reformed brother.

BigMack

[ksen]

If God chooses, then we have no choice. There is no getting around this.

• Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. - John 15:16

This also has its precedence in the Old Testament....

• For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all the people that are upon the face of the earth. - Deuteronomy 7:6