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To: malakhi
This was a message to the Jews.
Is it? What makes you say this?

The bible . Who were the primary audience of Jesus ?

Mt.10:5-6 "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

It was not until later in His ministry that Christ sent the apostles to all the lost .Mt.28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."

They believed that has an exclusive relationship with God. I'd say, rather, that Jews, being under the covenant of Sinai, have a different relationship with God. Plenty of examples in the Hebrew scriptures of non-Jews having a relationship with God.

They would walk miles around the mountain rather than come in contact with the 1/2 Jews (Samaritians )

Who ? After the nation was formed , and the Law given who did God have a "special relationship" with ? If we read the OT we see that the Jewish nation came out of Egypt a "mixed multitude" There were non hebrew Jews , If we look in all but one occasion God dealt solely with and for the Nation of Israel

They hated the Samartians and the Gentiles. ALL Jews hated ALL Samaritans and ALL Gentiles? Sweeping generalization alert.

Nope Historic. That was why it was such a shock when Jesus went on the Mountain and spoke to the Samaritan woman , and why a Samaritan man was used in the teaching of who is your brother.

And, of course, "love your neighbor" comes from Leviticus. Its not original to Jesus.

For those of us that believe that Jesus IS God and that He is the word of God incarnate..that would be no surprise

The word Kosmos to the Jew listening to that phrase would hear that God loved those that were not Jews too. What makes you think that Jews thought/think that God doesn't love gentiles?

They were Idolators What did God say about Idolaters? What had God told them to do to the nations they conquered?

That was a thought that the Jews did not want to hear, they had lost their "special" stand with God.
Please don't pretend to speak for "the Jews". What you are saying is not what Jews think, but rather what your particular theological interpretation suggests that Jews must think.

The gentiles and the Samaritans were unclean . They ate forbidden meats and took part in Pagan idol worship.They did not have the God of Israel , So the thought that theses unclean people could be saved by the God of Israel was unthinkable. They had become a legalist nation. Read Naham

The Assyrians had destroyed the ten tribes of Israel in the north and had brought in foreign peoples to settle there and mingle with what Israelites were left .That co mingling made them semi-pagan (Samaritans )who came to be despised by faithful Jews.

Nahum prophecies of doom and the destruction of the chief enemy of Judah and Jerusalem.

This prophecy is secular and political. There are no threats against his own people and the name of Yahweh is mentioned twice (2:13; 3:5). The prophet sees that the fall of Nineveh proves the principle of Israelite belief that the Lord will eventually punish the wicked and those who oppress others.

When we read the epistles and acts we see the constant teaching that in Christ there is no jew or Gentile. This was not restated over and over for nothing. There was a strong spiritual, and political divide between the Jews and the rest of the world. It was a divide placed there by God in His laws and His miracles

2,503 posted on 04/07/2004 2:38:01 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: RnMomof7
This was a message to the Jews.

Is it? What makes you say this?

The bible . Who were the primary audience of Jesus ?

The discussion was concerning John 3:16. I thought it odd that you considered this "a message to the Jews" rather than universal.

If we look in all but one occasion God dealt solely with and for the Nation of Israel

Are you really trying to assert that, prior to Jesus, gentiles did not have a relationship with God?

Nope Historic.

Nope, Sweeping Generalization. You can no more make broad claims about "the Jews" than I can about "the Christians".

They were Idolators

You think that all gentiles were idolators?

The gentiles and the Samaritans were unclean . They ate forbidden meats and took part in Pagan idol worship.

Not all of the gentiles did. And the Samaritans certainly didn't.

That co mingling made them semi-pagan (Samaritans )who came to be despised by faithful Jews.

The Samaritans were monotheist. The enmity between Jews and Samaritans was because of Samaritan efforts to prevent the rebuilding of Jerusalem and the temple, not because the Samaritans were idolators. The "holy book" of Samaritans is the Torah, the five books of Moses.

When we read the epistles and acts we see the constant teaching that in Christ there is no jew or Gentile.

Neither man nor woman, either. Which might suggest that this was meant figuratively.

2,508 posted on 04/07/2004 3:09:42 PM PDT by malakhi (L'shana haba'ah b'Yerushalayim!)
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