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To: ksen
Here is my definition:

And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. - Roamns 14:23

So sin is something that is done without faith. That being the case, can an Unbeliever ever do anything by faith?

You are reading this out of context to be a general statement, when it isn't.

Paul is speaking about who can and can not eat certain foods, what is sinful and what is not. What he is saying is that a Christian should not disturb another's conscience. If a guy thinks eating X is sinful, then leave him be.

He's saying if you force the guy to eat pork and he has doubts, then you are making him condemn himself by his doubts. One must live out ones faith. To not do so is sinful.

That's all. And if you have faith, even one that is different about foodstuffs, if you introduce disharmony and doubt you are nto acting in good faith. So it is sin.

You demonstrate the very worst in taking a quote out of context and trying to make it into a universal. The Scriptures should be read in context.

It's a good clue that a verse is being cherrypicked when it begins with an "And" and yet we are supposed to act as if it stands on its own.

SD

2,356 posted on 04/07/2004 10:19:10 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: OLD REGGIE
On lurk mode. I'm bored.
2,360 posted on 04/07/2004 10:46:08 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: SoothingDave
You are reading this out of context to be a general statement, when it isn't.

Read it again. It is a general statement. Paul is telling them why the man would be damned if he ate without faith. He would be damned for eating without faith because whatever we do without faith is sin. It isn't restricted to what we eat or drink.

You demonstrate the very worst in taking a quote out of context and trying to make it into a universal. The Scriptures should be read in context.

Look again, I was in context.

It's a good clue that a verse is being cherrypicked when it begins with an "And" and yet we are supposed to act as if it stands on its own.

You don't have to quote a whole chapter in order to be within context.

2,429 posted on 04/07/2004 12:45:52 PM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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